Disney Scraps Plans For Further Star Wars Storys

[Campe]

I have a Master's degree. What's that worth?

I'm working on my Master's. Not THAT much. Sorry. I've devalued your Master's. (My wife, the amazing woman that she is, also has a PhD.)

 

[dahj]

So, number zero?

Which was also the numerical value of my IQ funnily enough

 

[Jinn]

Which was also the numerical value of my IQ funnily enough

Sounds like destiny to me

 

[Spot261]

I'll be modest and go with Einstein.

But honestly, I never had my IQ tested

143, I'm not a genius sadly.

 

[Jedi_Master]

I have a Master's degree. What's that worth?

Five to six figures worth of student loans, depending on where you go and how much "help" you get?

 

[Jinn]

143, I'm not a genius sadly.

You disgust me.

 

[Campe]

143, I'm not a genius sadly.

Hey, mine's also in the 140s. 146 if I recall.

 

[Kemaiku]

143, I'm not a genius sadly.

122, hands up anyone actually surprised by that. I mean that was 2007 and the whole concept is defunct now apparently.

 

[Mudd]

Someone has a 200 point IQ in this conversation?

No, not even close. But you can lie about anything on the Internet.

 

[suarezguy]

I disagree and I think Lucas would as well.

He may have intended the Empire to be evocative of Republican America and the Rebels of left-wing rebels and yet, especially with the Empire actually depicted as evocative of mix of Nazi Germany and British Empire and the Rebels thus implicitly Revolutionary War and WWII America, there doesn't seem to be much conservative about the Empire (let alone with regard to being against taxes and business regulations), and I think nothing to make the Rebels or Jedi seem left-wing (let alone in the sense of wanting more regulation or nationalization of businesses and economic redistribution), the conflict very much not about wealth distribution which is what classically (and presently) generally motivates left and right ideologies and conflict thereof.

 

[BillJ]

Who is everyone on this list?

I bagsy Edith Stern.

My IQ is pretty close to my age: 46.

 

[Campe]

No, not even close. But you can lie about anything on the Internet.

What?!? People don't tell the truth on the Internet? Next thing you're going to tell me there are fake news articles out there too.

 

[JD]

I would qualify Kylo as an emo brat. Temper tantrums and all. I picture Kylo as a charicature of what leftists and 3rd wave feminists consider male masculinity. "Toxic" I believe is their word of choice. As if the people who espouse such arrogant nonesense have any clue about true and Nobel male masculinity and it's role in history.

I'm getting a distinct impression that your ideas of "true and noble" masculinity are probably very very different from mine. For one thing, I can actually handle seeing capable, strong women as heroes in the media I watch/read/play, and I can handle knowing a woman is in charge of one my favorite franchises.
I'm also not afraid to admit, I think overall that woman has done a better job with it than the man who was in charge before her.

 

[Jedi_Master]

He may have intended the Empire to be evocative of Republican America and the Rebels of left-wing rebels and yet, especially with the Empire actually depicted as evocative of mix of Nazi Germany and British Empire and the Rebels thus implicitly Revolutionary War and WWII America, there doesn't seem to be much conservative about the Empire (let alone with regard to being against taxes and business regulations), and I think nothing to make the Rebels or Jedi seem left-wing (let alone in the sense of wanting more regulation or nationalization of businesses and economic redistribution), the conflict very much not about wealth distribution which is what classically (and presently) generally motivates left and right ideologies and conflict thereof.

To translate this word salad: Lucas was as good at writing political commentary as he was at writing Anakin's prequel dialogue.

 

[ALF]

Anakin's dialogue. I've come to grips with everything except for
"I wish that I could just wish away my feelings." (AOTC, fireplace scene on Naboo with Padme)

The double use of the word 'wish' in that sentence is baffling.

 

[fireproof78]

I'm working on my Master's. Not THAT much. Sorry. I've devalued your Master's. (My wife, the amazing woman that she is, also has a PhD.)

Five to six figures worth of student loans, depending on where you go and how much "help" you get?

The encouragement and positivity is overwhelming

He may have intended the Empire to be evocative of Republican America and the Rebels of left-wing rebels and yet, especially with the Empire actually depicted as evocative of mix of Nazi Germany and British Empire and the Rebels thus implicitly Revolutionary War and WWII America, there doesn't seem to be much conservative about the Empire (let alone with regard to being against taxes and business regulations), and I think nothing to make the Rebels or Jedi seem left-wing (let alone in the sense of wanting more regulation or nationalization of businesses and economic redistribution), the conflict very much not about wealth distribution which is what classically (and presently) generally motivates left and right ideologies and conflict thereof.

That is highly reductionist. Lucas is known for crafting Star Wars with an anti-imperialist theme, influenced highly by the Vietnam War as well as Nixon that dominated the decade Star Wars ended up coming out of. In this instance, the right leaning policies are far more authoritarian and extremist, not just regarding taxation and business regulation. I think that's narrowing the definition too far to be appropriate to the films and the influences that Lucas himself has discussed.

 

[DigificWriter]

In your dreams. I was there in 1977 and I came home and started drawing X-Wings and Tie-Fighters and none of the kids at school were going off on how Star Wars made them think hard about gender or race. Classic Planet of the Apes, maybe, or THX-1138, but not Star Wars. In fact, the basis of most of the early criticism of Star Wars revolved around it being little more than popcorn entertainment that wanted us to sort of shrink back to a childlike notion of good and evil rather than dealing with complicated sociological problems. It was that simplicity, that avoidance of tying it directly to any modern day political crusade, that made it universal escapism. So if you want to see it through an ideological lens, it's mostly an appeal to old-fashioned family values and an idealistic Frank Capra-like can-do attitude on life. Not the cynicism we have today from all fronts.

I get that 40 years onward people look at it differently (as all art passes through the viewer like an inkblot), but please stop short of trying to suggest something was intended that wasn't or people were reacting to it originally in some different way.

Just because kids weren't thinking about the politics of A New Hope doesn't mean that the film didn't have politics in it... so, "Nice try".

 

[Kibbin]

Someone has a 200 point IQ in this conversation? Please.

Collectively.

I'm getting a distinct impression that your ideas of "true and noble" masculinity are probably very very different from mine. For one thing, I can actually handle seeing capable, strong women as heroes in the media I watch/read/play, and I can handle knowing a woman is in charge of one my favorite franchises.
I'm also not afraid to admit, I think overall that woman has done a better job with it than the man who was in charge before her.

Hmm debatable. He had what I would consider two and a half decent movies and then the prequel trilogy, the clone wars movie( I've not gone any further than that and though I've been told it gets better I haven't dared find out). The holiday special and the ewok movies. That's a lot of red on his ledger but it's still what two and a half points for ANH and ESB.
To me she's got four minus marks. So if we work off the assumption that a minus cancels a plus. Hey you know what you're right. God damn it George!

Anyway, my actual point being that wasn't one of the big criticisms thrown against the prequels (especially TPM) that it was too political? And that comment came from more or less everyone as they rolled their eyes at taxation and trade routs not the left or the right. So isn't there some precedent for someone asking people to keep politics out of Star Wars?

 

[Campe]

Collectively.

Reasonable.

 

[Gepard]

Anyway, my actual point being that wasn't one of the big criticisms thrown against the prequels (especially TPM) that it was too political? And that comment came from more or less everyone as they rolled their eyes at taxation and trade routs not the left or the right. So isn't there some precedent for someone asking people to keep politics out of Star Wars?

The TPM backlash being about too much politics seems to be what Abrams et al thought when they stripped any and all discussion about (fictional) galactic politics out of TFA (seriously, they had material shot to explain what the hell the First Order vs Republic/Resistance thing was all about, but they cut it all out), but it was never really about it being to political. It was about it being confusing and boring. At least, that's my takeway from all the online bitching. Noteably, people who complain about the politics in the prequels don't complain that it's offensive, merely that it's dull.

Elements of the prequels like, say, Jar Jar, get a pass from apologists by virtue of the films being kid's movies, but at the same time the prequels contain wads of story that focus on political issues that are unclear even to adults.

Star Wars may always have been political but it didn't used to be about tax disputes. Not all politics and expressions thereof are equally interesting.