I would love to see someone do the opening shot from "The Cage" using this version of the Enterprise. Plus it would make purists' heads explode!
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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And the Mike Okuda timeline approved by Paramount as official has "Obsession" taking place in 2268, making the dikironium cloud creature attack on the Farragut in 2257.
That's it, thanks.
I just want more official renders of it.
But considering it took until eaglemoss for renders of the Shenzhou and Discovery, it might be a while.
Hahaha. Really? "They're following canon just fine, except for when they don't."
Well, that just about covers it.
Oh, you know what the future looks like do you? Any investment tips?
Who says it has to look different? Some mythical TV audience that could never possibly accept it?
Well...we've had thirty-six years of Star Trek. And all of these years were 99% consistent with what came before. That's why the last sixteen years of creating a generic scifi show and slapping that name "Star Trek" on it (or not in the case of Enterprise) are such an insult to the franchise. The show runners need to get their heads out of the arse.
Amen and Amen. Hallelujah!
This is getting into the debate that's been raging here for quite a bit.
Discovery absolutely dropped the ball with the aesthetic. People who say "it's the 60s its outdated" don't really know what they are talking about honestly. As I've explained before, mid 20th century design is actually considered very sleek and modern even till this day. You know that little franchise Ikea? The core of it's design philosophy and style was laid down in the 1920s.
You can do 60s and still make it look sleek and cool I've posted numerous images on this board of great 60s sci-fi design that still holds up wonderfully till this day. (avatar included)
How is something like this not just way cooler and sleek than the awful uniforms we get in Discovery? It's the style of the era that TOS was based on (Post-War Sci-Fi) but updated to modern standards.
Hell Gucci's 2017 collection, guess what it was inspired by, let me see if you can tell?
The thing is also, Star Trek takes place in the future. Fashion and trends are cyclical, there is no reason for characters to not have a more 60s look to them, frankly it actually makes the setting look more alien and futuristic simply because it doesn't look just like now in space ships which Discovery honestly suffers heavily from (both in the writing and the aesthetic).
I just honestly do not get why you would set a show during the Cage era and not use the TOS aesthetic. It will always be mindboggling to me. Why not set Discovery then 50 years before closer to ENT or 50 years post Voyager?
Yes. This, this, this!
No. The Remastered version was garbage enough, this would just be bullshit.
No, they were not as consistent as we would like to believe. There's a reason the acronym "YATI" exists. There's a reason why Kahn's comment in TWOK towards Chekov, VOY's reset button, and the like get mentioned. It's because inconsistencies abound within a TV franchise. Declaring DISCO as "insulting" is hyperbolic at worst and does little to add to the conversation.
I'd avoid investing in the Jelly Bean Computer Button Company right now.
Do they give you a membership card or a pin when you join the Fundamentalist TOSiban?
Which I admit exist. But they're mostly just small little details, or one line here or there. Most often they are production errors which are excusable.
We shouldn't even be having this conversation, becasue Discovery shouldn't exist.
I'm just laughing internally at imagining the scenario when your wife tries to redecorate the house.
"Don't pull down that wallpaper, it's canon!"
A little piece of friendly advice: if you want people to take you seriously, don't say patently ridiculous things like this.
I'm as devoted a TOS fan as anybody in this forum. I'll stack my love for the original up against anybody's. When the Defiant appeared in ENT I was squeeing like a kid in a candy store on their birthday. I will always love the original Matt Jefferies Enterprise from the '60s and it is my absolute favorite starship AND fictional spaceship. She's the Enterprise that helped make me the person I am both as an artist and as a fan.
That being said: DSC does exist. It makes atrocious production design decisions but for the most part, they got the Enterprise right. She may not be the TOS Enterprise right down to every detail...but then even the TOS ship didn't always look the same from pilot to pilot and then the actual series. She's fine. If the interior is close enough to the look of "The Cage" I'll be squeeing like a kid on Christmas morning after getting their favorite video game console and games, but if not - well, we can't change it. All we can do is hope for the best.
And at my age and after all these years I'm tired of raging over all the little details that a show or movie doesn't get right. DSC has a lot of problems, but until it gives me a valid reason to call for its cancellation and not watch it anymore, this TOS fanatic will do what Trek fans should do when presented with an episode or a design choice they don't like:
Remember that Star Trek is about the story and the journey, not ncessarily the car you're traveling in.
That being said: DSC does exist. It makes atrocious production design decisions but for the most part, they got the Enterprise right. She may not be the TOS Enterprise right down to every detail...but then even the TOS ship didn't always look the same from pilot to pilot and then the actual series. She's fine. If the interior is close enough to the look of "The Cage" I'll be squeeing like a kid on Christmas morning after getting their favorite video game console and games, but if not - well, we can't change it. All we can do is hope for the best.
And at my age and after all these years I'm tired of raging over all the little details that a show or movie doesn't get right. DSC has a lot of problems, but until it gives me a valid reason to call for its cancellation and not watch it anymore, this TOS fanatic will do what Trek fans should do when presented with an episode or a design choice they don't like:
Remember that Star Trek is about the story and the journey, not ncessarily the car you're traveling in.
Sorry for the Double post but we have two threads running on this subject
I said earlier it’s Missing a dome. Either deck one or deck two. Unless the new larger size is such as the two domes are combined into one. You can see the JJ/discoveryverse style bridge window. Dome appears two decks high so maybe that’s the case.
I’d prefer the spinning busard collectors to be less orange and more multicolored with oranges, pinks, silvers etc but that’s nitpicking
Not sure how much shorter the connecting dorsal actually is. Might be about the same. It comes further forward towards the front of the secondary hull. It’s wider so it may only look shorter
Otherwise fantastic effort aside from the B5 era level of rendering
Love to see a really good effects artist have a crack at it
Thanks to IGN for the photolink
http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/02/12/star-trek-discovery-producers-on-that-crazy-season-1-finale
I said earlier it’s Missing a dome. Either deck one or deck two. Unless the new larger size is such as the two domes are combined into one. You can see the JJ/discoveryverse style bridge window. Dome appears two decks high so maybe that’s the case.
I’d prefer the spinning busard collectors to be less orange and more multicolored with oranges, pinks, silvers etc but that’s nitpicking
Not sure how much shorter the connecting dorsal actually is. Might be about the same. It comes further forward towards the front of the secondary hull. It’s wider so it may only look shorter
Otherwise fantastic effort aside from the B5 era level of rendering
Love to see a really good effects artist have a crack at it
Thanks to IGN for the photolink
http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/02/12/star-trek-discovery-producers-on-that-crazy-season-1-finale
Spend a couple of hours with a 3D rendering program and a publicly downloadable mesh and you can do it. Just turn down the ambient light and hit F9.
Okay, it's not that easy. It's certainly not anything that requires a professional level of skill, either.
I wish she'd been bathed in more light. The illumination lights on her hull seemed to indicate the color of the ship will be a lot like TOS, a greyish hue and not like Discovery. But you can't tell with the usual black light poster lighting on this show.
Eh, no. "Should" implies there is some standard regarding Star Trek that must be adhered to. That is patently false, as "Star Trek" means different things to different people, and there is nothing that states one series "should" or "should not" exist.
If we can't jettison "TATV..." and "Precious Cargo" out an airlock then DSC isn't going anywhere.
Already gone.
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