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I will leave you with that mental image.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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The secondary hull is a little fatter, the pylons are angled and there's an extra fin on the bottom of the nacelles. The inner parts of the nacelles are lit (which could've been the case in the 60's with a little more money).
It's a thing of beauty.
It's a thing of beauty.
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Yeah it gives the ship a flatter profile, also notice how the nacelle struts haven't been shortened they have just been splayed outward instead to keep in line with the reduced height of the saucer.DSC model next to the original series model (restored version in the Smithosnian), the neck doesn't appear to be any thicker, just shorter
That indicates to me that the saucer is indeed larger than the original as the splayed out nacelles don't stick out past the edge of the saucer but its hard to say exactly by how much, from what I can see it looks like up to a 50% increase but no more than that.
A nice blue glow on that deflector would have rounded it off nicely.
DSC model next to the original series model (restored version in the Smithosnian), the neck doesn't appear to be any thicker, just shorter
They added the more-or-less vertical support extension at the bottom front of the interconnect - beefing it up. And of course the front cross-section of that piece is flat instead of rounded.
As I said, they borrowed the pieces from the ST:TMP version of the ship - that includes the "fattened" engineering hull and wider saucer. Little wedges added to the three extensions surrounding the sensor dish mount area, lifted from the Jefferies Phase II design - redesigning those extensions in some way is pretty much required if you're using the Phase II/TMP hull profile. Mildly surprised they didn't tack the torpedo bay on there, the whole thing is so slapdash.
Really, they might well have downloaded this "redesigned" model from one of three or four Internet sites and then fucked it up some just to keep the source from being obvious. That's how derivative it is.
Yet Star Wars has done an excellent job of maintaining visual continuity believably with 41 year old designs. (Rogue one) They used the TOS ENT in ST:ENT and it looked great. They did subtle upgrades on the interior and again it looked great and believable. Discovery is crapping all over the look of Star Trek. Enterprise had way more respect for it. No one said it had to look exactly like TOS. But make it believable that it came before. That it fits visually in the grand scheme of things.
Star Wars was made on a movie budget and has a lot more detail that stands up over the years.
TOS was cheap, 1960s TV show. It doesn't work.
Enterprise and DS9 were also direct homages, DSC isn't.
I added to my last post. No one says it has to look exactly. But everything on DSC is a complete departure. There is no other way to put it. They are not respecting what came before. Again... visually DISCOVERY has failed imo.
And if they'd tried making the TOS-E more detailed, with 1960's cameras and 1960's TV's, it would've looked weird at best or not noticeable at all.
Hah, what? They're respecting it fine (not counting the Klingons)
DSC was never going to look like TOS, it looks too primitive, doesn't look like the future at all.
I want to go on record as saying I love how she looks in DSC! My father, who passed away a couple weeks ago, was a huge TOS fan. The reveal of the Enterprise at the end, along with the TOS theme, would have had him clapping.
I was crying when it happened, because I thought of him.
As for her sending a Priority One distress call, could this be right after the Rigel VII incident? Rigel is near 40 Eridani, which is reportedly the system Vulcan is in. It could be right after it happened, and they're on the way to the Vega Colony.
No matter what, I loved how it ended the season! And given Burnham and Sarek's exchanged looks, I think Spock is still there. He served with Pike for "11 Years, 4 Months, 5 Days", and this would be right in that timeline.
I was crying when it happened, because I thought of him.
As for her sending a Priority One distress call, could this be right after the Rigel VII incident? Rigel is near 40 Eridani, which is reportedly the system Vulcan is in. It could be right after it happened, and they're on the way to the Vega Colony.
No matter what, I loved how it ended the season! And given Burnham and Sarek's exchanged looks, I think Spock is still there. He served with Pike for "11 Years, 4 Months, 5 Days", and this would be right in that timeline.
The Rigel VII incident was two weeks before 'The Cage'. DSC is currently around 3 years after 'The Cage'.
Thank you. I was trying to make the estimates in my head, working out at what point we will see Enterprise.
Again I am not saying it has to look exactly. But at least give it a similar visually look concerning uniforms, color etc.....the current movie Uniforms is a good example if this.
I'm sure we'll get there eventually, remember we're still 9 years out.
All of the people who keep insisting on denying reality when it comes to Discovery and its place in Trek Canon should go live in Washington D.C., because they'd fit right in.
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and it doesn’t
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