Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x15 - "Will You Take My Hand?"
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Stamets' offhand comment about Starfleet will look for an artificial way to pilot the spore drive surprised me. I guess we can assume that Starfleet never figures out how to replace Stamets as the pilot of the spore drive and that is why it is never mentioned again in Trek?
Except the Klingons were winning the war and had a fleet poised to attack Earth itself. They just needed to finish the attack on Earth to win the whole war. To pull back from the edge of total victory to "finish the war later" makes no sense.
Except the Klingons were winning the war and had a fleet poised to attack Earth itself. They just needed to finish the attack on Earth to win the whole war. To pull back from the edge of total victory to "finish the war later" makes no sense.
How could the crew prevent the device going off? The immediately preceding scenes had made it clear they couldn't retrieve it via transporter, and they apparently had no alternative in mind. Georgiou had the detonator. What else could they do, except try to apprehend her before she used it?
(And as I speculated, the only apparent means they might have had of doing that would actually have seemed safer than what they came up with after talking with Cornwell!...)
Umm, what are you talking about? We know Spock served under Pike for eleven years, four months, and five days — from before the events of "The Cage," until Pike handed off the captaincy to Kirk, hence including the timeframe of this show. The shared glance between Sarek and Burnham in the final scene certainly suggests they expect Spock to be aboard.
finally finished the episode, it felt a little bit rushed, but all in all I was satisfied with what I saw. I'm a little dissapointed they had to throw the 1701 in at the end, but other than that it was great. I can't wait for season 2
and the admiral doesn't know that. she only knows the crew found out what she was willing to do and would try to stop it
Like others have said, it felt a bit rushed, but overall I was pretty happy with it. Tied everything up sufficiently and got us all excited for next season.
Hopefully they shake up the writing staff a bit, maybe bring in a new showrunner, so next season won't feel as messy. This episode felt a bit like the writers were washing their hands of everything that had come before.
Hopefully they shake up the writing staff a bit, maybe bring in a new showrunner, so next season won't feel as messy. This episode felt a bit like the writers were washing their hands of everything that had come before.
I've been one of Michael's biggest defenders but yeah, that speech... very tiresome.
The "everyone gets an ice cream Sunday" ending was tiresome enough but that speech? Like watching the end of a high school or college do gooder film where everything works out in the end under a trite monologue.
My prediction of the closing scene is: fireworks on Earth, Vulcan, Andor and Kling while the Humans and Klingons celebrate the end of war sharing a barrel of prune juice and dancing in the Mycelial Forests of New Endor.
I predicted Return of the Jedi, but it ended up being A New Hope kind of ending
I think, had the finale been a two-parter, they could have done so much more with more moments between the characters.
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He could be on leave on Vulcan after Enterprises first 5 year mission for instance.
Expecting Spock to be aboard and him being aboard and actually being seen are two different things.
As I said it wouldn't surprise me if they do something to dodge that particular casting bullet as Spock is not really the focus of this series, he may be referenced but that doesnt mean he is going to be shown.
A whole ship of trained and armed Starfleet officers? I'm sure they'd have found a way to stop one person with a detonator. Our crews have faced much tougher odds in the past. But with the Admiral's support, they were able to offer her an official promise of freedom, and then try to turn the detonator to their advantage rather than give up on the plan entirely. Although, of the three people she speaks to, the Admiral's support is the one she needs least, that much is true. Her speech on the bridge is really to get the crew on board.
Well, sure, anything could be possible. But what you wrote was that "they set it so that it would not be Spock on the Enterprise at this time." That seemed counter-intuitive.
Chewie didn't get a medal. Which was total BS, in my opinion.
[QUOTE="There was no leverage at all. L'Rell didn't have to anything to help the Federation or end the war, she didn't even agree to that before she was given the bomb. She was handed the power over the Klingon empire, with no promises, let alone any guarantees.[/QUOTE]
They knew that L'Rell's whole motivatin behind the war was the unification of the Klingon houses. She knew this wasn't happening and conquering and dividing up the spoils was actually doing the opposite. She was looking for a way to unite the houses and it was handed to her. As far as why not unite the houses but still crush the Federation. I think her Ash relationship has something to do with that. Ash has a lot of control over her as well. I think that is the primary reason he had to stay with her (to keep her on task).
They knew that L'Rell's whole motivatin behind the war was the unification of the Klingon houses. She knew this wasn't happening and conquering and dividing up the spoils was actually doing the opposite. She was looking for a way to unite the houses and it was handed to her. As far as why not unite the houses but still crush the Federation. I think her Ash relationship has something to do with that. Ash has a lot of control over her as well. I think that is the primary reason he had to stay with her (to keep her on task).
He did, it was just too small to fit around his neck. He's holding it in his hand. Mind you that's a retcon from the new comics.
I love how Loreal was able to convince all the klingons that the ipad controlled a bomb with such ease.
Oh they do, it just takes around 10 years, but then those pesky Organians get in the way.
It would be so, so worth it.
Well they kinda took over a half developed show with Fuller's exit...........I am hoping with THEM mapping everything from the start it will have a better flow. Gotta be a pain to take over what someone else had put into motion.
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