Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x13 - "What's Past Is Prologue"
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S2 will be almost like an entirely new show.
He said they wanted a new way to fly.
Only took them 13 episodes.
I couldn't get past the first 10 minutes of the 1st episode of After Trek. Thought the host was awful. Maybe I should revisit it...
Thought this episode was good. I gave it a 10. Although I agree with a lot of the criticism of how Lorca was disposed of. He threw a lot of "destiny" crap at us and his love for Burnham that we were supposed to swallow as his undoing after the brilliance he displayed all season long. A 10 was generous but I still liked the episode.
Airiam was second officer, which I guess makes her first officer now, unless Cornwell gives it to Burnham. Either way, I expect Airiam to have a major rivalry with Michael now.
We can only hope.
LOL. Airiam is a glorified background extra. Sulu and Uhura had more character moments in their first few Trek episodes than Airiam, Detmer, Reese and Owosekun combined. Mostly everything in this episode, including the villain, revolved around the 'great' Michael Burnham.
It's very unlikely they are planning to go back to the traditional ensemble Trek dynamic now.
Seriously they aren't trying to push her as the great one.
Once upon a time, before they cast the show, the wrote a story about these characters. The cadt and crew are simply fulfilling the story. They aren't making this up from one week to the other.
Thats the point you people keep missing. Her continuing to be the maon character isn't a thing they are "pushing" that's just the story that was conceived, casted, and shot.
Frankly I think a lot of people like green and burnham and the ones who are butthurt about her just cry the loudest and whine about SJW this and SJW that.
Yes Isaacs is a great actor. But he cannot and would never have been able to play Michael. He could never have been the lead in this show. If he was the lead it woulda been a different show. what you want, is a different show all together.
I'm just trying to convince myself that getting Michelle Yeoh back is a completely fair trade for losing Jason Isaacs...
You and me both. Badass as she is, Isaacs was electrifying every week and this blows a big hole in my reason for watching the show.
Yes. He was such a fascinating, complex character, then he becomes 1. a simplistic, racist megalomaniac and 2. a whole lot less clever. God, that pissed me off. I disagree about the fight scene, though; Michelle Yeoh finally got to show a little of what she can do, and I could believe her kicking anyone's ass.
That thought occurred to me, and boy do I hope so.
I am going to have to process for a while before I can fairly react to this. It was exciting, there were moments I really liked, and some themes were resolved in what I may decide are satisfying ways. But losing my favorite character and my favorite actor breaks my heart and removes one of the reasons I was so excited about this show. They both deserved better.
Oh, no, my ship -- I mean, my headcanon -- went down...
I thought it was fascinating that they basically said that the whole theme of the season was that Lorca's presence was essentially poisoning the crew of the Discovery and casting the shadow over the typical Starfleet ideals, and that the whole idea was to show the contrast in how the crew reacts and comes together once they are kind of freed up. They said that the bridge crew is now headed toward becoming a family.
Again, if they execute this well, it's the JOURNEY I find most fascinating.
Who wants to bet George Kirk will be part of season 2?
My money is on no.
Have faith (of the heart)
In all seriousness though, I think it will be quite different. The shift in tone in this episode and the focus on the ensemble is something that hasn't been seen yet this season.
I mean I doubt the actress portraying Airiam would have signed a contract to do episodes on a show where she gets no lines.
I understand what you are saying. But successful shows often have to evolve or call audibles from the original formula if it’s not working at the level you hoped it would. I actually like the Burnham character, but I also realize she’s not all that popular. I also don’t think she can carry this show without a strong pillar like the Lorca character. The show runners hopefully saw what Isaacs brought to the show and if he’s willing and available, I hope we see him again as a regular. And if not, they better seriously consider bringing someone in to bolster this cast.
Perhaps they will Discover strange new worlds...
I think you're wrong. We'll see I guess.
So intelligent of you. You sound like the retard.
Only took them 13 episodes.
It took most other trek shows at least 3 years
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