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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x10 - "Despite Yourself"

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Exactly we can have a 'Bones dead in Shore leave' moment, one scene he was dead, a few scenes later he was right as rain. And the tv audience accepted it.
Yes, but...we're a tad more sophisticated audience today than we were back in the mid-Sixties. We'd accept it again, today, but...not without some controversy. Heck, we even accepted the whole Spock-McCoy-katra thing in The Search for Spock, but...I do recall more than a few Trekkers and Trekkies rolling their eyes at it.

There's a place for that kind of space fantasy. I think Star Trek, though, should be good science fiction, with as little fantasy elements as possible.
 
Yes, but...we're a tad more sophisticated audience today than we were back in the mid-Sixties. We'd accept it again, today, but...not without some controversy. Heck, we even accepted the whole Spock-McCoy-katra thing in The Search for Spock, but...I do recall more than a few Trekkers and Trekkies rolling their eyes at it.

There's a place for that kind of space fantasy. I think Star Trek, though, should be good science fiction, with as little fantasy elements as possible.
I agree. I personally hope that it's something like we learn in the next episode that Dr. Culver wasn't killed, but instead horribly injured. He was in sickbay, after all. If another doctor or nurse found him very quickly along with their futuristic medical technology it would be a much easier suspension of disbelief for me.
 
Is there a "Mirror Q" or does Q see all the different universes?
Good question. I've always thought of the Continuum existing outside linear time. Q did create alternate timelines in All Good Things but I don't know whether that would qualify as an overall nonlinear multiverse-level existence.
 
I agree. I personally hope that it's something like we learn in the next episode that Dr. Culver wasn't killed, but instead horribly injured. He was in sickbay, after all. If another doctor or nurse found him very quickly along with their futuristic medical technology it would be a much easier suspension of disbelief for me.
A bit of neural regeneration technology to heal the spinal cord injury...and there you go. Star Trek has been pretty reductionistic as far as how they envision medical technology. Aside from the whole Vulcan katra issue, they've more or less poo-poo'd the idea of a spiritual component to human life, so...I can see them going down that route. So long as they do it in a reasonably realistic manner--with Code Blue/Red/Whatever, lots of melodrama for fifteen minutes during cut-scenes of emergency surgery--sure, I'll bite off on that.
 
I actually like this theory. It seems much more plausible that the MU was just a lark by an energy being who is a capricious dick than it would happen due to random chance.
It would also explain why he always thought humans to be a "savage, child-like race". Maybe he just got recently transferred to the Prime Universe from the MU right before the Farpoint mission and still had a bad taste in his mouth from the experience.
 
"Living Witness" comes close for VOY without being a full-on MU ep. Pretty decent one for VOY, actually. Yeah, TNG would have been fun, but after Naked Now and a few others, I think they wanted to avoid rehashing TOS ideas for that series. Makes sense. I highly recommend the book "Dark Mirror" that told that story quite effectively.

'Living Witness' is one of my favourite MU/alternativeU episodes. Precisely because it's not slavishly tied to the MU, but has overlaps. Much as I love this DSC Terran MU, I hope they will game-change/step-up a little!
 
Thx yea I thought I’d hear before.

Do you have alternate opinion on what I said then?

Thx
 
I have been watching many Voyager reruns on BBCAmerica lately. And honestly it would have been a good show if it weren't for so many lingering threads that were never re-explored and the constant resets with no repercussions from the prior episodes events. To me Discovery has been the opposite of that (as many have said very much more Battlestar-esc). Everything in characters past seems to have repercussions and that's great.

I think the only way out of this current situation with the doctor (without some voyager like reset or a stupid miracle ability by Stamets) is to somehow bring the mirror universe doctor back with them. Then they could focus on the changed relationship and rebuilding the relationship with Stamets which could be cool. I know on after trek they said we wouldn't see the mirror doctor (but then maybe they stretched the truth to throw people off after he said he would be back).

I think it won’t be the Mirror Doc, and I think Stamets is in both universes essentially as one person anyway. There may even be no Prime Stamets if Lorca is MU.
I don’t mind the resets in Voy...it had plenty of arcs for its time, and it’s no worse really than say Buffy.
 
Never watched Buffy. I guess to me voyager had a lot of potential and I actually enjoyed the cast. Just never to me seemed to just fit right show to show. I much prefer the discovery type show.

I guess we will find out the stamets/doc thing soon enough. Must watch tv.
 
Yes, but...we're a tad more sophisticated audience today than we were back in the mid-Sixties. We'd accept it again, today, but...not without some controversy. Heck, we even accepted the whole Spock-McCoy-katra thing in The Search for Spock, but...I do recall more than a few Trekkers and Trekkies rolling their eyes at it.

There's a place for that kind of space fantasy. I think Star Trek, though, should be good science fiction, with as little fantasy elements as possible.
We accept magic, tribble Khan blood than anything is possible.
 
If he's anything like Mirror McCoy was reputed to be then we could be in for a treat. :) Mirror Phlox was a cold, calculating sadist with a typical Denobulan enthusiasm for and embrace of his job.
MU Phlox has one of my favorite lines from ENT - "In A Mirror Darkly" - as he's trying to kill the captured Tholian:

Phlox: "Will you kindly DIE!":devil:
 
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