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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x06 - "Lethe"
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I had a thought about what was Sarek's motivation to prove Michel can be a proper Vulcan. And I think it has nothing to do with Michel. It's about Spock.
Spock is half human, half Vulcan. And we know he gets bullied over it and faces bigotry.
If Sarek can prove that a full human can be a "proper Vulcan", than logically, there should be no doubt about his half human child being able to be one.
Spock is half human, half Vulcan. And we know he gets bullied over it and faces bigotry.
If Sarek can prove that a full human can be a "proper Vulcan", than logically, there should be no doubt about his half human child being able to be one.
My. Fair. Human.
Lethe review
The sixth episode of the series. The series continues to improve (and at least there aren't 'colourful metaphors' this episode.) The opening scene with Sarek and his aide on Vulcan was a rather good introduction to the story, being a great set up for what follows. It is obvious that Sarek didn't expect his aid to be a 'Logic extremist'. (Really, the Federation is failed experiment? Because there is a war with the Klingons? Their pessimism would seem to be illogical, if that is the case.) Then there is the scene with Lorca and Tyler in the holodeck.
That is a good scene as Lorca gauges Tyler while he gets to know him (I still don't think he's a Klingon spy). Tyler's humility regarding the kill counter is well done also, as is Lorca's reply. Burnham's talk with Tilly was quite good also, as is the come back later. (Referencing the Enterprise wasn't over the top, and works in context, see next). It is clear that Burnham has taken on a mentoring role, and wants Tilly to succeed in her goals. The scene with Tyler is also good. (Is there something between Burnham and Tyler?)
Of course, that leads into the main plot of the episode, rescuing Sarek. Hence Tilly, Burnham and Tyler going into the nebula on a shuttle. (Enhancing the meld with a mechanism? It works, and it helps to advance the story.) If nothing else, the three of them work well together. But what they discover (or rather what Burnham discovers) is quite interesting. Why Sarek is resisting Burnham's attempt at connecting with him, also provides backstory for his relationship with Spock. Quite well explained.
That Sarek had to make a compromise with the prejudiced head of the Vulcan Expeditionary Group, so that Spock instead of Burnham and Spock would join, only for Spock to unknowingly betray that agreement, goes a long way to explaining the rift between the two when they meet above Vulcan in 2367. The revelation that Cornwell had a relationship with Lorca in the past is interesting. But that she would sleep with Lorca despite being his superior officer, is quite morally questionable. But that leads to the revelation of the nature of Lorca's problems.
PTSD from what happened on the Buran. (Is that all that's wrong with him?) This leads to the next thing, Cornwell taking Sarek's place, and getting captured by the Klingons. Certainly an interesting development. 8.75/10.
The sixth episode of the series. The series continues to improve (and at least there aren't 'colourful metaphors' this episode.) The opening scene with Sarek and his aide on Vulcan was a rather good introduction to the story, being a great set up for what follows. It is obvious that Sarek didn't expect his aid to be a 'Logic extremist'. (Really, the Federation is failed experiment? Because there is a war with the Klingons? Their pessimism would seem to be illogical, if that is the case.) Then there is the scene with Lorca and Tyler in the holodeck.
That is a good scene as Lorca gauges Tyler while he gets to know him (I still don't think he's a Klingon spy). Tyler's humility regarding the kill counter is well done also, as is Lorca's reply. Burnham's talk with Tilly was quite good also, as is the come back later. (Referencing the Enterprise wasn't over the top, and works in context, see next). It is clear that Burnham has taken on a mentoring role, and wants Tilly to succeed in her goals. The scene with Tyler is also good. (Is there something between Burnham and Tyler?)
Of course, that leads into the main plot of the episode, rescuing Sarek. Hence Tilly, Burnham and Tyler going into the nebula on a shuttle. (Enhancing the meld with a mechanism? It works, and it helps to advance the story.) If nothing else, the three of them work well together. But what they discover (or rather what Burnham discovers) is quite interesting. Why Sarek is resisting Burnham's attempt at connecting with him, also provides backstory for his relationship with Spock. Quite well explained.
That Sarek had to make a compromise with the prejudiced head of the Vulcan Expeditionary Group, so that Spock instead of Burnham and Spock would join, only for Spock to unknowingly betray that agreement, goes a long way to explaining the rift between the two when they meet above Vulcan in 2367. The revelation that Cornwell had a relationship with Lorca in the past is interesting. But that she would sleep with Lorca despite being his superior officer, is quite morally questionable. But that leads to the revelation of the nature of Lorca's problems.
PTSD from what happened on the Buran. (Is that all that's wrong with him?) This leads to the next thing, Cornwell taking Sarek's place, and getting captured by the Klingons. Certainly an interesting development. 8.75/10.
They gave time frame in the episode, I think it was the mid 21st century?
Not possible, unless Garth did something note worthy before taking command of DSC for Kirk to have read about him in the academy
Theoretically, the Buran could have done all manner of fascinating stuff which is part of the reason why Lorca is given so much rope.
But yes, it'd be a big ass retcon--not the least reason being he has a different name.
But yes, it'd be a big ass retcon--not the least reason being he has a different name.
2256, not 57. But yeah, maybe?
And DSC was originally supposed to start airing last summer, so at least the first few episodes were ready by then...
Writing was finished last year, but filming didn't start until this year.
The rain in Spain falls mainly on filthy petaQ.
What? You mean he had a logical reason for becoming her ward? Who'd have thought?
See, now I just have Betty boo in my head cut to an imagined Ponn Farr scenes montage. Thanks for that NyotarOK
That's the impression she gives me.. she acts like one but she is not.
I guess is their way to present that a human grew up in Vulcan behaves different.
Can't explain better in English, sorry..
Human beings seem to have a social camouflage that appears over time when they reach a saturation point living in a different culture. It's like how accents develop to affect someone's speech without them even knowing it's happening until someone who knew them long ago rediscovers them and points out the odd changes in their speech and demeanor. It's not necessarily an intentional act that people do in a conscious effort to fit in, although it sometimes can be. It's just generally something that seems to happen over time, unconsciously.
Brooks.
Indeed. This one has to be the very first episode where I thought "I might want to rewatch that at some time" - namely, if we learn more about the whole Sarek-Amanda-Spock-Burnham relationships. Either after having new DIS episodes adressing that, or if I catch a re-watch of another series (say, TOS "Journey to Babel", or the TNG-episode with Sarek), then this episode might be relevant to check to see what happened before (or after) in a new light.
All the other episodes were rather "meh". Were I was glad I watched them to see the story unfold, but didn't find any one memorable or interesting enough to check out later again. To be fair, that wasn't the case for many other Trek series in their first 5 episodes as well (although, we had stronger pilots before).
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