Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x06 - "Lethe"

[Nerys Myk]

I think most of us are using the SF Debris scale where it's being graded to itself.

I've no idea what that is.

 

[cooleddie74]

I like how the Discovery sickbay feels like a hybrid of Phlox's on the NX-01 and McCoy's in TOS. The biobed sensors projecting from the wall are bigger and less advanced looking than McCoy's which is a very nice touch to make this sickbay look modern and yet feel like it could be a decade before McCoy joins the Enterprise crew.

 

[Ithekro]

Does mean that the Constitutions are plum assignments compared to pretty much everything else in the fleet.

 

[Canjo]

When Ash Tyler said to Lorca maybe I'm the one that needs eye treatment, Lorca looked at him funny for a second.

Does Ash Tyler know independently about Lorca's eye stuff? Or is it that the only way he could have known is through L'Rell? I don't recall the previous episode in enough detail...

 

[Ithekro]

Tyler studied too hard for his assignment...and he's not remembering what he shouldn't know.

 

[David cgc]

Does Ash Tyler know independently about Lorca's eye stuff? Or is it that the only way he could have known is through L'Rell? I don't recall the previous episode in enough detail...

It came up. They even had a bit in the recap when they were both in the stolen Klingon fighter where Ash says something about Lorca keeping his eyes screwed up as penance for surviving his crew.

 

[Charles Phipps]

I've no idea what that is.

Short version is that he reviews Star Trek episodes against other episodes of the same series. So he would never judge Enterprise's best episodes against TNG's episodes or TOS'.

 

[cooleddie74]

Does mean that the Constitutions are plum assignments compared to pretty much everything else in the fleet.

Seems like it. David Mack said that the Constitution-class starships in the 2250s get the unique Starfleet uniform and ship design templates and we already know that they're considered the frontline vessels of the Federation during TOS. They're probably where many if not most Academy graduates want to be posted, Kirk being lucky enough to get the Farragut from the day he graduated.

 

[Charles Phipps]

Does mean that the Constitutions are plum assignments compared to pretty much everything else in the fleet.

I don't think the Enterprise was the flagship of the Federation but she was damn close in TOS. There's only 13 and they were always getting the most important assignments.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Short version is that he reviews Star Trek episodes against other episodes of the same series. So he would never judge Enterprise's best episodes against TNG's episodes or TOS'.

I take them one at a time and live in the moment

 

[eschaton]

I think most of us are using the SF Debris scale where it's being graded to itself.

I think the median Trek episode, by definition, is going to be a five. There's probably less than ten episodes I'd rate as tens across all of the franchises.

I still don't see it as the best of the series. I thought it was the third worst, after the first two, so far.

 

[Ometiklan]

I understand that. His dialogue with Cornwell, as I noted, was generally great (although the actress he was in the scenes with, not so much). But in general his attitude towards Burnham in this episode broke my immersion and made me realize I was watching a show, and that Lorca sided with Burnham for the reason of the overarching plot.

Not to mention we know he's been a dick to much of his crew (including Stamets) in the past, so the warm treatment he's now giving Burnham (and Tyler) seems to come out of nowhere.

Lorca is good to his crew when he needs to be, and crappy to them when it serves his purposes as well. It is all about getting the job done...

Perhaps. The question is of course why? We know he fucked up royally in the past, and that he doesn't have the best relationship with Starfleet command. Why is he, of all captains, not only given the most advanced ship in the fleet, but allowed to assemble a "dream team" of his choosing?

Speaking of which, the answer to your question is because he gets the job done.

Me: *watches*

Wife: What did they say?

Me: Hmm?

Wife: You were watching them jog, weren't you?

Me: Sorry, Seven of Nine effect.

The thing I noticed is the SMG runs funny. Maybe the gravity on Vulcan is different enough that she learned to run differently??

Seriously though guys, was I the only one who saw major weaknesses in the (guest) acting, the characterization, and the dialogue this week? I just don't see how someone could rate this episode a 9/10 when comparing it to the previous body of Trek works. That means it's almost perfect, when it clearly was not.

I had no problem with any of those, whereas in past weeks some of the dialog has felt like a little bit of a stretch - though I never thought any of it has been "bad". As my wife pointed out while watching the Orville - they don't speak with any kind of gravitas on the Orville - Trek dialog has always been a little more formal, direct, and lofty. Trek is statesmen in space, Orville is truckers in space.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I don't think the Enterprise was the flagship of the Federation but she was damn close in TOS. There's only 13 and they were always getting the most important assignments.

Sometimes. One week you're ferrying ambassadors. The next you're giving medical check ups to some scientist on a remote dead world.

 

[Charles Phipps]

I think the median Trek episode, by definition, is going to be a five. There's probably less than ten episodes I'd rate as tens across all of the franchises.

I still don't see it as the best of the series. I thought it was the third worst, after the first two, so far.

Mostly I feel it's the best Michael episode because she's not Science GirlTM for once.

 

[Mudd]

Sometimes. One week you're ferrying ambassadors. The next you're giving medical check ups to some scientist on a remote dead world.

All more interesting than anything Lorca and company get to do.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Mostly I feel it's the best Michael episode because she's not Science GirlTM for once.

Hey, that's her new job!!!!

 

[cooleddie74]

Or ferrying space hippies to the closest Starbase and getting hijacked to a planet they think is the source of creation.

 

[Charles Phipps]

All more interesting than anything Lorca and company get to do.

I keep expecting a Doctor Strangelove moment where Lorca gets fed up with all the experiments.

"STOP DOING SCIENCE ON THE SCIENCE VESSEL!"

 

[Nerys Myk]

Or ferrying space hippies to the closest Starbase and getting hijacked to a planet they think is the source of creation.

Yea, brother,

 

[cooleddie74]

(*Points to my avatar*)