Michael or Saru might have grabbed it, since they probably knew what it meant to her.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x04 - "The Butcher's Knife Cares Not for the Lamb's Cry"
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Hrrm. The first three episodes were IMHO 4, 3, and 6 respectively. I rated the new episode an 8 last night, but now that I reflect further I should have rated it a 7 given the continuing problems with the Klingons. It's managed to rise to slightly above average, but not great.
One thing I think people are getting wrong is this idea that Voq is supposed to be the antagonist. It seems clear to me that they are setting up the series to not have a central antagonist. The antagonist is arguably just "the war" in a general sense. The series does not seem to want to get into the simplistic good guy/bad guy motif, instead depicting the war as something that happened due to a bunch of individual contingencies which have now swept everyone up (sort of like the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and World War 1). Even Kol, who certainly is not sympathetic, it's clear does not look at victory against the Federation as the goal, but a means toward the ends of advancing his house above the other Klingon houses. Thus it's not apocalyptic at all, but much more cynical.
Then later, (once Voq has gone "augment" and become Ash Tyler) they fuck.
That's exactly what a tartigrade maw looks like, despite the fact that they are generally peaceful herbivores.
Vacuum storage?
If the series were simply an ideological struggle between Lorca's utilitarianism (or more precisely, his desire to instrumentalize nature) and the universal, holistic approach displayed to varying degrees by Burnham and Stamets, the story would have been completed by now. However, it seems that the producers intend to do both, and the Klingon narrative--their challenge to humanity and Federation--is meant to be equally important.
Whether they are doing that well is debatable.
They're doing one crummy job of that, then. "The Klingons aren't bad" is the producers' lip service to assuage the gentle feelings of Trekkies and nothing more.
Discovery is as much about humane ideas and exploration as were Conan the Cimmerian's fictional wanderings around the Hyborian lands...
These are less sympathetic klingons than Kruge.
Seriously, these are the least sympathetic Klingons in the whole of Star Trek as at least they had reasonable motivations in the old days: conquest, wealth, and plunder. These are fighting for a nebulous ideal they're not "Klingon" enough and can't articulate it any way save disgust at racial harmony.
I think it's clear they intend to show separate conflicts within the Klingons as well as the conflict between the Klingons and the Federation. I mean, who is actually leading the Klingon war effort? We still don't know. Certainly we know it's not Voq, who has been weak and is now essentially powerless. It could be Kol, but we have no indication yet he's anything but the leader of a single powerful Klingon house. If they intended the season to have a primary antagonist they would have introduced him by now, as the arc is now over a quarter over.
These Klingons are the perfect cynical merging of American bigotry against the foreign "other" with the superficial imposition of a little racist hate speech on to their cardboard culture in order to make it socially acceptable to villify them.
Oh, and they're cannibals. Did we mention that they're cannibals dropping bombs on screaming children? Yay, Lorca, go Kill Them All!
This isn't the Trek that America needs, it's the Trek that America deserves.
Don't you think they set up Voq to become the Klingon leader? The leadership doesn't have to be given to him on a plate. He will have to face challenges to get there.
Not a all. What I think will happen is Voq will "give up everything" and be infected with the augment virus, making him look like a human. I think he'll then take on the identity of Ash Carter and be thrown into prison with Lorca and Mudd. He will be rescued, and end up infiltrating the Discovery crew. He and Burnham will end up in a relationship, and he'll end up having very conflicted feelings between his hatred of Burnham for killing T'Kumva and his love for her for...well...story purposes.
Ash Tyler
Duh. Dumb mistake.
Once I'm here for 14 days, do I get the ability to edit my posts for typos?
To not seem like such a party pooper, I should note that the visuals, imho, are 9/10, every episode does feel like a blockbuster motion picture. The look of the water bear, some fun tech's like the holo mirror, are great. But the poorly thought through stories are just boring. In retrospect, I might give the 4th episode a 3/10. The visuals are totally carrying it so far and might be the reason I'll continue to watch it. Maybe if they had spent more time explaining the science of the spores and the cosmic tardigrade and cut out 95% of the Klingon scenes, I'd give it 5/10.
I think remember an occasion in which humans trapped on a mountain, ate dead humans to survive
The show didn't suggest the Klingons go around eating humans, just in a starvation scenario that they would do so to survive.
I liked the stuff with the tartagrade. I like that Michael is being set up as the lone voice of normal Starfleet morals against a crew of warmongers. Though I think I might star referring to the show as Star Trek: Cerberus.
I liked the stuff with the tartagrade. I like that Michael is being set up as the lone voice of normal Starfleet morals against a crew of warmongers. Though I think I might star referring to the show as Star Trek: Cerberus.
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