Redesigning the ship to fit, is a nod. Hell Gene had it done.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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Redesigning the ship to fit, is a nod. Hell Gene had it done.
Oh no, they changed the Necelles, pylons, secondary hull, the dish, the neck and the saucer. Its not anywhere near tge same design wise.
No it isn't. It is someone changing something that is iconic to their personal taste.
I'm on both sides of the argument here. I don't agree the TOS Connie looks primitive, but I also agree they need to update the design so it fits with the rest of the show's aesthetic.
I hate to bring up Axenar, but I think the Ares is a perfect example of a TOS Style design that could work on modern TV.
Or the KT ships they 'TOS'afied for the show.
I hate to bring up Axenar, but I think the Ares is a perfect example of a TOS Style design that could work on modern TV.
Or the KT ships they 'TOS'afied for the show.
No, that is making it fit. What you want is adding a model T as just a 10 year old car in a 1960s era show. This is how glaring the design issues are.
Man, they redesign the ship from the ground up for TMP because od the very issues I am talking about. It is no longer the 1960s
Holy shit, Batman! Are you kidding me?!?
But if you create a show that is in-continuity with a 1960's show, you better show that it connects somehow or the very people they are aiming it at, may end up rejecting it.
Existing Star Trek fans are not the only people they're aiming it at.
They are pushing this very hard at the fan crowd. They have to. Because people watching Game of Thrones will laugh at the PG rated Game of Klingons.
It's also a silly reason to reject a show. "This show doesn't look outdated af, blasphemy!"
Compare the TMP version to the TOS version. Really look at the shapes, not the texture.Now go look at the NX. Ignore texture and look at the forms. You can see TMP design forms in the NX.
I do not hate the TOS ship, in many ways its nice. But it was a single design that trek left behind. They embraced the TMP styling and once ENT went with rhat style, it left no where for the TOS style.
If you look at the Walker and the Discovery, we are seeing an advancement of the NX and ENT styling and form shapes. The walker perdates the Connie, the Discovery is likeily 10 years newer.
Do you honestly think the design of the TOS connie fits between those two?
If they put the Enterprise on the show, that is aimed at existing Star Trek fans. The only reason to do it is fan service and homage to the original. Changing the design substantially would defeat the point, and would probably lead to negative fan reaction.
No? That is why I said they need to update the design for Discovery.
If the Shenzhou didn't exist, then I'd say keep the TOS Connie the way it is.
BTW, if the intent is that Shenzhou is some old rustbucket and Discovery is the new, hot übership, then they royally fucked up. Shenzhou looks way more advanced than Discovery.
Yeah, the nacelle support struts. The nacelles and sensor dome are straight out of TOS. The inverted saucer comes from the Excelsior. It is a mismash of components from various Trek ships.
They said the Discovery is newer then the Shenzhou in EW.
That is why the transporter looks so different between the two.
I think it looks less advanced than the Connie's. I never got the "gluing shit on makes it advanced" train of thought.
OK. Then it makes equally much sense that TOS Connie is more advanced than Discovery.
We don't know how old the Discovery is. For all we know she is a new ship.
The TOS Connie is at least 10 years old when the show starts.
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