Discovery and "The Orville" Comparisons

[Mudd]

B5's not very good overall, which is why it's largely forgotten (not that many folks watched it to begin with).

 

[starmike]

B5's not very good overall, which is why it's largely forgotten (not that many folks watched it to begin with).

LOL it's still talked about today and has recently been added to streaming services. If it were bad, why is it still supported?

 

[Mudd]

It's talked about and supported by a small and diminishing group of people. So what? I watched it and didn't think much of most of it.

 

[{ Emilia }]

It's talked about and supported by a small and diminishing group of people. So what? I watched it and didn't think much of it.

Aren't fan bases of 25-year-old shows usually small and diminishing?

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Aren't fan bases of 25-year-old shows usually small and diminishing?

For shows that haven't had any revival or pop culture reference made to them, yes.

 

[Mudd]

Aren't fan bases of 25-year-old shows usually small and diminishing?

Sure, unless they're remarkable in some way or another.

TNG fandom may be diminishing; I don't know the numbers. It never has been small, though.

 

[Roald]

B5 was a Pioneer in telling story arcs, and it had a lot going for it... the Shadows were just cool as hell, and Christopher Franke was ahead of his time... still, B5 couldn't do what Trek could; Trek in the 90's was a world we all wanted to live in, a world we truly loved... B5 just didn't have that...

 

[CobaltDysprosium]

Oh. It's coming. Don't worry.

Psssh. The Orville looks like it's made out of pasta. No contest.

Oh, it's begun.....

 

[Spider]

B5 was a Pioneer in telling story arcs, and it had a lot going for it... the Shadows were just cool as hell, and Christopher Franke was ahead of his time... still, B5 couldn't do what Trek could; Trek in the 90's was a world we all wanted to live in, a world we truly loved... B5 just didn't have that...

"Story arcs" are just another way of saying "watered down soap opera". This stuff has been on TV since forever. Back in the day, I enjoyed B5 much more than DS9 because it's stories, or arcs, were damned intriguing for me. I don't remember thinking of either show as pioneering, just decent entertaining TV scifi is all.

 

[Roald]

B5 was pioneering as sci-fi tv, which had never used arcs the way they did.... I for one felt that the Shadow arc was poorly resolved, but the set up was perfection!

 

[Jedi_Master]

B5's not very good overall, which is why it's largely forgotten (not that many folks watched it to begin with).

I've seen the series all the way through multiple times, and I wholeheartedly agree.

It's overly talky, overly serious, thoroughly in love with itself, and just... boring.
There are few outstanding actors who make the most of their characters, but overall its a solid "meh".

 

[{ Emilia }]

Yet you've seen all of it multiple times?

 

[starmike]

I've seen the series all the way through multiple times, and I wholeheartedly agree.

It's overly talky, overly serious, thoroughly in love with itself, and just... boring.
There are few outstanding actors who make the most of their characters, but overall its a solid "meh".

The first time wasn't boring enough for you?

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Something I always laugh at is the overheard exchange at the end of an episode of The Big Bang Theory:
"Up next, Babylon 5!"
Sheldon: I can hear that!
Leonard: Oh, so the dialogue offends you?
Sheldon: I would hardly call that dialogue!

 

[starmike]

Something I always laugh at is the overheard exchange at the end of an episode of The Big Bang Theory:
"Up next, Babylon 5!"
Sheldon: I can hear that!
Leonard: Oh, so the dialogue offends you?
Sheldon: I would hardly call that dialogue!

The Big Bang Theory whining about dialog? The irony.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Yet you've seen all of it multiple times?

The first time wasn't boring enough for you?

Yep 4 or 5 times. Momma was a big fan. We used to watch two to three episodes every afternoon for a year or so until she finally got tired of it...

Back in the days before everyone could retreat to their own screen.

 

[Mudd]

My Dad and I used to watch The Honeymooners. That show ended forty years before B5 began; its Facebook page has about four times as many likes as the Babylon 5 page does.

 

[Jedi_Master]

My Dad and I used to watch The Honeymooners. That show ended forty years before B5 began; its Facebook page has about four times as many likes as the Babylon 5 page does.

Unsurprisingly, people track this stuff..
https://www.statista.com/statistics/204078/5-most-popular-tv-shows-by-facebook-pages/


Top 3

1) Mr. Bean
2) The Simpsons
3) Spongebob Squarepants

 

[Mudd]

That's a surprising list.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Here's movies --- Harry Potter DOMINATES
https://www.statista.com/statistics/271381/most-popular-movies-on-facebook-based-on-number-of-fans/