Spoilers Game of Thrones - Season 7
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Jaime may not kill Cersei himself, but methinks he will allow whoever it is to perform the act after having the opportunity to stop them.
Cersei is running along a similar story as the mad king who Jaime killed to stop him destroying the city. Cersei is batshit crazy at this moment in time and when she realises she cannot win, when her city is surrounded, she will most likely attempt to wipe out Kings Landing and Jaime will be forced to kill her like he did with the Mad King.
Jamie killed the Mad King to end his reign of terror. We've seen from the previous seasons that Jamie considers the lives he saved by killing Aerys to be an accomplishment worth of admiration, but instead everyone calls him Kingslayer. Cersei is teetering on the edge of becoming the next Aerys. She's already embraced all of Robert Baratheon's faults. Jamie cares about his knighthood and his honor. I could see him putting his sword through Cersei to end her reign.
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Jaime served Aerys, yes, and chose to betray that service, but, as noted, he (Jaime) has also declared that he's willing to literally burn down the world for Cersei in order to protect her, and there's nothing about his character as presented thus far - or anything about her behavior thus far - that would render that statement false.
The death of Tommen. Since his return, he's clearly disturbed with Cersei's behavior, finally aligning with his characterization in A Dance with Dragons.
I'm not sure where you're getting the sense that Tommen's suicide has disquieted Jaime, because the tone of his conversation with her in regards to that subject, as presented, was one of brotherly and intimate concern for her emotional state, not her sanity or anything else that would rise to the kind of thinking that would predicate familial regicide.
At this point, believing that TV!Jaime's relationship with Cersei is anywhere close to deteriorating to the point where he'd kill her is seeing what one wants to see rather than what's being shown.
Jaime has come a long way since Season 1. If it were then, I definitely believe he would burn it all down for her. Now? Not so much. Brienne taught him the true value of a Knight's Honor, and he is also less one hand and a whole lot of bluster since the beginning. I wouldn't necessarily count on him being the unwavering protector that Cersei assumes him to be. He's starting to see the parallels between her and Aerys.
He declared that he'd literally burn down the world for her LAST season (Season 6), so Brienne had less of an effect on him than fans want to believe, at least in the TV series.
Yes but he said it before she cooked off the wild fire, though, which directly served to make Highgarden a prime enemy to the west. He was already quite wary of her after she started spurning him and she unequivocally hates him for letting Tyrion go. Methinks he said that, not so much out of loyalty, but more out of his own self preservation. He's a toothless lion now, without his sword hand, which was the only thing that made him special or dangerous. He's stroking her ego now, for no other purpose than to keep his head attached at the neck.
I posted this above, but the tone of Jaime's conversation with her in regards to her actions and their fallout, as presented, was one of brotherly and intimate concern for her emotional state, not her sanity or anything else that would rise to the kind of thinking that would predicate familial regicide.
I don't know.. she's grown up a lot since season 1 and had to endure brutal things that would have broken lesser people. She understands true cruelty since she has lived through it and it is beyond her to apply this to others. However she learned that being honorable to a fault can be deadly in this age and at this level so she approaches events from a different angle than Jon which is exactly what she tries to tell him after the council.
Ned and Rob died because they were honorable and decent men and thought that this would save them and would rub off on others, especially their adversaries but they failed to realize that the other side played by an entirely different set of rules. Sansa understands these rules now and won't trust anyone enough to blindly step into her doom anymore which is why she has marked Littlefinger as an enemy and is watching him closely.
In a way Jon and Sansa complete each other.. Jon is still the straight man though he too had his brush with reality when he was stabbed for being the straight man while Sansa is adept at the political game so she can keep his back clear in that area.
It remains to be seen if the current rift will widen or close once they realize that they need each other to make it through.. words are one thing but actions speak differently and their difference of opinion is something where Littlefinger can sink his claws into.
Sansa has had a lot of bad stuff happen to her, and she has also learned quite a bit of how to play "The Game", both from Cersei and Littlefinger (and, to some extent, Tyrion in their brief time together). However, I think she has a far better head on her shoulders thanks to her parents' upbringing (or, at least, less sociopathic) to become like Cersei. Yes, she has her scars and PTSD to be sure, and she clearly possesses a well-earned dark side (as evidenced by her smirking at Ramsey being torn apart by his own dogs) but she's far more stable than Cersei ever pretended to be.
This was just pointed out to me: Sansa is sporting Cersei's hairstyle.
Normally, I would say that's just a coincidence, but considering the conversation she had with Jon Snow...
Normally, I would say that's just a coincidence, but considering the conversation she had with Jon Snow...
Agreed. She has become intelligent in the way of the game and will do what's right. My guess is Sansa will play Littlefinger and then dispose of him when the time is right. Sansa states that the only reason LF is around is because they need the Vale's army. Methinks she will secure Robin's allegiance and then have Arya off LF with the same blade he put to Ned's throat
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