Yes. I'm sure there were plenty of un-disgraced star fleet officers who were familiar with the DMZ....
Stories you would have liked to have seen, the Voyager edition.
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I think you're being sarcastic, but she didn't need someone from Starfleet to be an observer. She picked her former Commander's troubled son, gave him a chance, and gave him a job and his rank back. Or even if Tom was the only person that could do the job, she still may have wanted to redeem him, or rather, give him the opportunity to redeem himself. They aren't mutually exclusive.
And we saw through the journey how much she was right to give him a second chance. I don't think she thought he would become as important to her and Voyager but he has become an essential element of her crew as much thanks to his piloting skills but as much thanks to his human qualities (Tom was a good guy, loyal, generous, kind and, funny and besides, did you note that he was the only one, who could tease Janeway on the bridge!).
It would have been a mess to let him sink. Tom was Janeway's personal project (dixit Chakotay) and she managed to go to the end of the mission with him, like she did with Seven..
More Voth stories-have a Voth join the crew.
I always wished Dr. Gegan could have come with them, maybe his daughter and assistant too if they wanted.
I'd like to see more and more crew couple up and leave on friendly planets. The whole point the of the show was that they were looking for some miracle to get them home, a one in a million thing. Who would really stick it out seven years?
Then perhaps Janeway has a problem when more want to leave but doing so will leave them too understaffed to continue their journey...
Then perhaps Janeway has a problem when more want to leave but doing so will leave them too understaffed to continue their journey...
To be honest I didn't want the story to end. I kind of envied them escaping the responsibilities of mundane life. They became their own community and family. It was only when it was over that the realization of seven years was the end date. They thought at the very start it could be generations.
I would have been okay with them going back in. Returning to the Delta Quadrant. Voyager left in her wake a reputation.
I would have been okay with them going back in. Returning to the Delta Quadrant. Voyager left in her wake a reputation.
That's basically the plot of the ongoing Voyager novels. Equipped with a quantum slipstream drive and a small back up fleet, Voyager's back and following up on all the chaos they caused on their way home.
You know I think I might have to read these novels. There is a whole world of fan fiction this forum has opened my mind to and I keep reading about these blessed novels and even filmed things.. with the actual actors in them.
If the novels are good I can read, lol.
Start with Full Circle. It picks up on some big happenings from the Next Gen/Titan novels but explains all you need to know, and begins Voyager's return to the Delta Quadrant. Don't worry, Janeway returns a few novels in.
These novels got the author, Kirsten Beyer, a gig co-writing Star Trek: Discovery.
These novels got the author, Kirsten Beyer, a gig co-writing Star Trek: Discovery.
I fail to see how being 70 00ly from home freed them from the responsibilites of mundane life? If anything life became more mundane with no escape unless they choose to leave and give up on ever seeing friends and family as they face a potential seventy year journey home.
As for it being potentially generations, wouldn't it have been prudent to pair up and start procreating replacement crew members as soon as possible?
Thank you. It's a reversal of how things normally are for most of us. You read a novel and then its made into movie, the characters never look as they do in your head. Reading one of these the characters will in place already.
It's very interesting, especially in the early seasons, when they are constantly on the run. Studies have shown that people who are needing to be vigilant for threats or feel under constant monitoring that become increasingly suspicious, paranoid and hypervigilant to perceived threats.
Yeah, a vacation for the mundane activities is nice, but a permanent change? Life on Earth must be horrible. Usually that's called a mid-life crisis.
I completely agree with this. We saw adventures they had in the episode but there was time inbetween that, days even weeks. I'm sure much of their time was spent just quietly flying in a straight line. Not much to do but build shuttles. This is why I've always thought that even if they were able to use the holodeck energy that they shouldn't use it for anything but the holodecks. They will need the recreation for their own sanity.
After I read Full Circle (and all the subsequent books) I fell head over heels with the Voyager crew. I watched Voyager but never cared about it. The books feel like a sequel series, but with an entirely new production staff that loved Voyager, but figured out how to remove everything that made it terrible and highlight only the stuff that makes it great, while still keeping that core 'family' feeling. And I was definitely not a fan of Voyager as a series. Now I re-watch it with love and just laugh off the bad episodes.
Oh, but back on topic, I would have liked to have the Hirogen fleshed out as a more multi-faceted enemy/sometimes-friend. Their ancient technology and relay systems and all that sounded so fascinating and I wish they delved into it more. Like, we finally get an advanced civilization that has been advanced for a long, loooong time and they aren't extinct! But then we never learn anything about them other than the hunt.
They didn't create that network they are not that old as a species. Between Hunters, Prey, Message in a Bottle, The Killing Game, Flesh and Blood, they were very fleshed out
Damn, memory serves me not today. Well in that case, I wish they had encountered whomever built the relays or figured out what they were for, haha. Ancient races are one of many things I love in Star Trek, but it never feels like we get enough information about any of them to be really satisfying...for me at least. More of just a plot device.
And yeah, the Hirogen were indeed well fleshed out (when one isn't mistakenly under the assumption that they are an ancient advanced civilization)
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