Well we don't know what else they did for fun, though I'm sure they did things like read, listen to music etc. Sure there would be the odd bit of shore leave to help. But it would be around 2 hours of holodeck time a week for a crew of around 15 with 2 holodecks.
Stories you would have liked to have seen, the Voyager edition.
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Well we don't know what else they did for fun, though I'm sure they did things like read, listen to music etc. Sure there would be the odd bit of shore leave to help. But it would be around 2 hours of holodeck time a week for a crew of around 15 with 2 holodecks.
There isn't much evidence to support the Hirogen claim that the arrays where theirs. They could have found it and claimed it. It might have been interesting to see a story where we learn about the true origins of the array network (if indeed it wasn't built by the Hirogen).
Maybe have remnants of the Iconians or T'kon.
Maybe a story where the command tells Janeway she might consider remaining in the DQ(during the time defeat was a real possibility in the DW).
She has to brood over whether to tell her crew this-we might not have a home to come back to or to press on while keeping them in the dark.
Maybe a story where the command tells Janeway she might consider remaining in the DQ(during the time defeat was a real possibility in the DW).
She has to brood over whether to tell her crew this-we might not have a home to come back to or to press on while keeping them in the dark.
It occurs to me... the relay station the Hirogen used looked like a redress of the Caretaker's array.
What if that is not a production thing, but they are related to the Nacene? Like an offshoot race, or the Nacene are an offshoot of that ancient race... sort of like how Romulans are an offshoot of Vulcans.
What if that is not a production thing, but they are related to the Nacene? Like an offshoot race, or the Nacene are an offshoot of that ancient race... sort of like how Romulans are an offshoot of Vulcans.
The planet that the Kazon left the crew on (Hanon, wasn't it). I wonder what the primitive people that lived there would have dealt with all the strange things they had seen and heard.
I would have like to see more about:
- their lives before Voyager (even if we didn't attend to crew's first steps on Earth, we can assume, that after returning to Earth, many will resume their daily routine, after a period of adaptation, of course), even through flashbacks.
- exchanges with their relatives like letters, videos, especially from s6.
- their lives before Voyager (even if we didn't attend to crew's first steps on Earth, we can assume, that after returning to Earth, many will resume their daily routine, after a period of adaptation, of course), even through flashbacks.
- exchanges with their relatives like letters, videos, especially from s6.
I think it would have been nice had Dexa and Brax had decided to go with him to the AQ. They could have done that with as few episodes that were left. It would have been nice to have a wedding for Dexa and Neelix.
What I'd wish they'd done is to have followed up on Korok and the Unimatrix 0 Borg - perhaps having them go to the Unity planet and join up with the de-assimilated Borg there, and, perhaps later, joining up with Hugh's Borg to form a Federation-friendly Borg Cooperative Alliance to stand with the Federation against the regular Borg. Would make a good fan fiction story or a Trek novel, though.
I don't think they would have gone to the AQ with him. They had no reason to.
I agree about the freed Unimatrix zero borg. Would have loved to see a follow up
I think it would make a very interesting story.
They could have sped up Neelix and Dexa falling in love which would have given her a reason.
What if that R'Kaal empire would have been real?
I would have loved to see a mirror universe episode 
I just watched End Game for the 1st time in a couple of years. Great episode on many levels. I like the twist with the admiral and captain working together in the end to defeat the Borg queen.
But... it was all rather anti-climactic! They make it home, there's just over a minute of greetings from Lt. Barclay and the Admiral, then they "set course for home" and you see Voyager drifting forward with a compliment of other starships, the Earth directly ahead. OVER.
In a way, the alternate timeline flash-ahead does achieve a kind of "ending..." We see a possible future of several crew members having made their lives on Earth after Voyager. So that kind of gives us a semi-feeling of closure. But I sure wish we'd have seen at least a couple of key crew members finding their way after returning home. Seven getting her own apartment. Tuvok returning to Vulcan for his treatment. Tom and Be'lana with the baby. Chakotay and Janeway reuniting with family. Maybe about 5 to 10 more minutes of some resolution. Without that, it did feel a little flat.
Anyway, it felt good to watch this series once more. It's really a great body of work, a cherished part of the Star Trek universe.
But... it was all rather anti-climactic! They make it home, there's just over a minute of greetings from Lt. Barclay and the Admiral, then they "set course for home" and you see Voyager drifting forward with a compliment of other starships, the Earth directly ahead. OVER.
In a way, the alternate timeline flash-ahead does achieve a kind of "ending..." We see a possible future of several crew members having made their lives on Earth after Voyager. So that kind of gives us a semi-feeling of closure. But I sure wish we'd have seen at least a couple of key crew members finding their way after returning home. Seven getting her own apartment. Tuvok returning to Vulcan for his treatment. Tom and Be'lana with the baby. Chakotay and Janeway reuniting with family. Maybe about 5 to 10 more minutes of some resolution. Without that, it did feel a little flat.
Anyway, it felt good to watch this series once more. It's really a great body of work, a cherished part of the Star Trek universe.
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So I just watched Endgame for the very first time and I have to say I am somewhat disappointed. There was a lot of good in there, high concept ideas and good action, etc but the very end is SO abrupt it felt cheap. I frankly don't see how the alternative future offers us ANY sense of an ending - in that timeline they were in the Delta Quadrant so much longer, every single thing for those characters will be different. It would make no sense for the real timeline to resemble that one at all (and Admiral Janeway made sure it didn't!).
I agree with Gary - I wanted to see what it was like for them to actually get home. In a way like DS9 had flashbacks in the final episode montage, Voyager could have done with flash forwards or something like a montage to provide a sense of return.
But if they were to be braver, I actually think there could have been a more interesting story there and Endgame could have been the penultimate not the final episode. Some options...what if the final episode follows on from them getting home but shows how difficult it is for them to adjust back to life on Earth and ends with them wanting to come back together because they miss their Voyager family. Maybe they go on another journey? Or what if there are real long term repercussions to Voyager's time in the Delta Quadrant? Something bad they bring back with them? Or something that changes the nature of life in the Alpha Quadrant some way? Maybe something to do with the Borg. I don't know..what if there really was a Court Marshall of Captain Janeway? What if the crew had to answer for some of their actions in the Delta Quadrant (it could still turn out okay in the end but it would be an interesting retrospective that would finally tie in their full adventure together into some kind of cohesive narrative). I don't have one solid idea on this I guess, but I just feel like a bit more was needed to give Voyager more depth than just 'get lost, get home'.
What did the journey mean? What does getting home really mean for these people? Another episode could have done something conceptual to try and answer those questions in a deeper, more fulfilling way.
I agree with Gary - I wanted to see what it was like for them to actually get home. In a way like DS9 had flashbacks in the final episode montage, Voyager could have done with flash forwards or something like a montage to provide a sense of return.
But if they were to be braver, I actually think there could have been a more interesting story there and Endgame could have been the penultimate not the final episode. Some options...what if the final episode follows on from them getting home but shows how difficult it is for them to adjust back to life on Earth and ends with them wanting to come back together because they miss their Voyager family. Maybe they go on another journey? Or what if there are real long term repercussions to Voyager's time in the Delta Quadrant? Something bad they bring back with them? Or something that changes the nature of life in the Alpha Quadrant some way? Maybe something to do with the Borg. I don't know..what if there really was a Court Marshall of Captain Janeway? What if the crew had to answer for some of their actions in the Delta Quadrant (it could still turn out okay in the end but it would be an interesting retrospective that would finally tie in their full adventure together into some kind of cohesive narrative). I don't have one solid idea on this I guess, but I just feel like a bit more was needed to give Voyager more depth than just 'get lost, get home'.
What did the journey mean? What does getting home really mean for these people? Another episode could have done something conceptual to try and answer those questions in a deeper, more fulfilling way.
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I'm not sure I would have wanted Voyager told in 'Flashback parallels' format like Lost and OitNB but it would have been cool to see certain things like Tuvok infiltrating the Maquis.
I would have liked to see them really running critically low on power and being seriously vulnerable, having to consider compromising their ideals because the alternative is being stranded without even the power to go to warp. Even if it were only one episode, they were never really pushed to the brink without some kind of rope to grab onto.
I would have liked to see them really running critically low on power and being seriously vulnerable, having to consider compromising their ideals because the alternative is being stranded without even the power to go to warp. Even if it were only one episode, they were never really pushed to the brink without some kind of rope to grab onto.
Yeah I think perhaps after Equinox, it would have been really good to see Voyager pushed into a situation more similar to that crew - plus you could actually have had the input of the Equinox crewmembers on the situation!
Definitely would have liked to see more Maquis - Federation conflict. Loved the couple of episodes we did get and it would have been really interesting to explore and show the integration (or failure to integrate) to a greater detail. It also would have been interesting to see more conflict between Chakotay and Tuvok - especially in the earlier seasons. As Vulcan as Tuvok is I think somewhere inside he was a little annoyed not to get the First Officer gig.
I never had that much an issue with maquis integration remember a lot of them had a former federation or Starfleet background and so reintegrating probably wasn't that difficult for most of them.
Agreed. I think it would have been repetitive if they would often be seen arguing over decisions and bickering. They showed it through the first season and i think that was enough. After that i feel that it made sense that they worked together
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