"Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges" is latin for "In times of war the laws falls silent." in means that when there is a war the people in charge tend to forget that there are laws and do atrocious things.
But "I, Mudd" is about robots, not Romans.![]()
I really doubt that. The phrase "in the pale moonlight" existed long before that movie.In The Pale Moonlight. (From Batman '89.)
This is a Shakespeare quote from Hamlet, referring to his plan to expose Claudius' murder of Hamlet's father: "The play's the thing, wherein I'll catch the conscience of the King.""The Conscience of the King" (TOS)
"I, Mudd" is a take-off on Isaac Asimov's I, Robot.
As they say on the AV Club, it can be both things.Surely I, Claudius more than that. I mean, its premise starts with a harmless(?) idiot(?) rising to become leader of the state.
But not the phrase "Did you ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?" which is a big part of what the DS9 title is referencing.I really doubt that. The phrase "in the pale moonlight" existed long before that movie.
But "I, Mudd" is about robots, not Romans.![]()
When you consider that Asimov wrote Foundation after reading Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire, then I, Robot makes sense as an homage to I, Claudius.
And then, of course, I, Borg flows from that.Of course it does, however "I, Mudd" is clearly a reference to Asimov. (It's filled with robots for pete's sake!)
And then, of course, I, Borg flows from that.
Of course it does, however "I, Mudd" is clearly a reference to Asimov. (It's filled with robots for pete's sake!)
And then, of course, I, Borg flows from that.
And there it is.
Naturally! Although not necessarily an homage to I, Mudd, but an independent homage to Asimov's novel. But who knows?
It's the other way around. Shatner's opening "Space, the final frontier" voice-over wasn't heard until the series went into production."Where No Man Has Gone Before" was probably taken from the main title narration . . .
I really doubt that. The phrase "in the pale moonlight" existed long before that movie.
<<hey ron, was the DS9 title "in the pale moonilght" a reference to Batman,
or something else. >>
I only know the quote from "Batman" -- does anyone out there know if they
took it from somewhere else?
"I don't know" is not a confirmation. And how can it be referencing that phrase when it's never used in the episode?But not the phrase "Did you ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?" which is a big part of what the DS9 title is referencing.
Plus, Ron Moore confirmed it back in the '90s.
"In The Pale Moonlight" had a story by Peter Allan Fields and a teleplay by Michael Taylor, so it's unlikely that Ron Moore came up with the title. Hence him asking "if they took it from somewhere else."
The Magnificent Ferengi is of course a play on The Magnificent Seven, a famous Western just recently remade.
My feeling is that you know I didn't mean that the phrase was said in the episode. Anyway, I'm not that worried about arguing it. I believe it is likely, you disagree. No biggie.And how can it be referencing that phrase when it's never used in the episode?
^ Which itself was a westernized version of Kurosawa's 七人の侍, Shichinin no Samurai, or Seven Samurai.
Good call!
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