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Poll Which doctor would you NOT want to treat you?

Which Doctor would you NOT want to treat you?

  • Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy

    Votes: 3 4.3%
  • Dr. Beverly Crusher

    Votes: 8 11.6%
  • Dr. Julian Bashir

    Votes: 3 4.3%
  • The EMH

    Votes: 13 18.8%
  • Dr. Phlox

    Votes: 42 60.9%

  • Total voters
    69
If I can delete the subroutines that enable nursery rhymes and jokes both involving technobabble puns, then I'll be fine with the EMH.
 
You know, he might be a murderous psychopath, but Crell Moset is otherwise a very nice guy.

Colin Baker is totally underrated. I mean I get it, most of his stories were crap, but the man was a fine actor and a great Doctor.

I find it stupid to create a hologram of someone and then charge that hologram with the crimes the person after which the hologram is made allegedly committed. And if they want to be consistent then they should destroy ALL medical information in the database dating back to our medieval time because a large part of it is due to experiments involving the suffering of animals, nay humans. IOW, I found that episode totally inane.
 
I find it stupid to create a hologram of someone and then charge that hologram with the crimes the person after which the hologram is made allegedly committed. And if they want to be consistent then they should destroy ALL medical information in the database dating back to our medieval time because a large part of it is due to experiments involving the suffering of animals, nay humans. IOW, I found that episode totally inane.
Yes, it is stupid to blame the hologram for the crimes of the real Moset. But more to the point, just because they're using a holographic avatar based on Moset, doesn't mean the information in the database came directly from him, despite what the episode tries to claim. So really, they want to erase the database of useful information just because a holographic avatar offends one of the crew.

Nothing Human is such a strange episode. It has great character stuff, but it severely mangles the message it's trying to tell.
 
Yes, it is stupid to blame the hologram for the crimes of the real Moset. But more to the point, just because they're using a holographic avatar based on Moset, doesn't mean the information in the database came directly from him, despite what the episode tries to claim. So really, they want to erase the database of useful information just because a holographic avatar offends one of the crew.

Nothing Human is such a strange episode. It has great character stuff, but it severely mangles the message it's trying to tell.

Also it really looked like he could have chosen any likeness for the hologram, so why would he choose a cardassian, of all people, knowing the general hostility of the maquis toward them,? At the very least that was a really tupid move on the doctor's part. Imagine a surgeon who'd put on a mask of hitler to talk to his patients. You'd have to wonder about the guy. It's like the writers had no idea how to create the dilemma they wanted the episode to revolve around so they decided to go this unspoken clumsy way.
 
Also it really looked like he could have chosen any likeness for the hologram, so why would he choose a cardassian, of all people, knowing the general hostility of the maquis toward them,? At the very least that was a really tupid move on the doctor's part. Imagine a surgeon who'd put on a mask of hitler to talk to his patients. You'd have to wonder about the guy. It's like the writers had no idea how to create the dilemma they wanted the episode to revolve around so they decided to go this unspoken clumsy way.
The issue of the Cardassian isn't even brought up in the episode. Well, it kind of his, Harry asks "you know this guy's a Cardassian?" The Doctor replies "is that an issue?" Harry answers "they're not the nicest guys around" even though a more pressing issue would be "you know half the crew, including your patient, used to belong to a terrorist organization dedicated to fighting these guys, right?"

But yeah, if they had used a holographic avatar based on a Tellarite, Andorian, Ferengi or even a Romulan and there'd be no issue. No one would have been offended, and B'Ellanna's life would be saved with no issues.

But while we're discussing the episode, I also never understood the Bajoran guy who gets so offended over the Moset hologram he tries to resign. He's so bothered by the hologram that he's willing to spend the rest of his life in the Delta Quadrant?
 
The issue of the Cardassian isn't even brought up in the episode. Well, it kind of his, Harry asks "you know this guy's a Cardassian?" The Doctor replies "is that an issue?" Harry answers "they're not the nicest guys around" even though a more pressing issue would be "you know half the crew, including your patient, used to belong to a terrorist organization dedicated to fighting these guys, right?"

But yeah, if they had used a holographic avatar based on a Tellarite, Andorian, Ferengi or even a Romulan and there'd be no issue. No one would have been offended, and B'Ellanna's life would be saved with no issues.

But while we're discussing the episode, I also never understood the Bajoran guy who gets so offended over the Moset hologram he tries to resign. He's so bothered by the hologram that he's willing to spend the rest of his life in the Delta Quadrant?

I thought he was an asshole from the very beginning. He was hostile to Seven for no other reason than B'elanna was, he didn't have the excuse of having a parent assimilated or anything. Talk about a dumbass! It's like he was waiting for something to complain about.
 
....He's so bothered by the hologram that he's willing to spend the rest of his life in the Delta Quadrant?

I think it's worse than that. He expected to spend the rest of the trip like a passenger on a cruise, loafing around, while all the rest would do all the work.
 
The EMH. I don't like his attitude.
They all seem qualified. So I wouldn't walk out on any of them. :shrug:
Yeah, they are all technically qualified, but I have to say I agree with Laser Beam. While I liked the character, the EMH was a Grade A prick. He had the worst bedside manner and was the biggest and most arrogant dick of them all. Ironic, since he probably is the best at being a doctor, but Zimmerman's assholishness just shines through a little too much.
 
Yeah, they are all technically qualified, but I have to say I agree with Laser Beam. While I liked the character, the EMH was a Grade A prick. He had the worst bedside manner and was the biggest and most arrogant dick of them all. Ironic, since he probably is the best at being a doctor, but Zimmerman's assholishness just shines through a little too much.

I'm just concerned about their ability to heal. I always saw bedside manner as overrated when dealing with doctors. Most I've dealt with in my life, are far more like the EMH than any of the others.
 
Yeah, they are all technically qualified, but I have to say I agree with Laser Beam. While I liked the character, the EMH was a Grade A prick. He had the worst bedside manner and was the biggest and most arrogant dick of them all. Ironic, since he probably is the best at being a doctor, but Zimmerman's assholishness just shines through a little too much.
All things considered, I'd rather be treated by Zimmerman's talking iguana.
 
I'm just concerned about their ability to heal. I always saw bedside manner as overrated when dealing with doctors. Most I've dealt with in my life, are far more like the EMH than any of the others.
Well, yeah, if you have a sucking chest wound, sure it's not the time to be picky. :D

I was going under the premise if you can afford to be selective, which one would you NOT want to be treated by.

And if the doctors you go to are assholes like the EMH, maybe you are going to the wrong doctors. Personally, I don't have time to deal with asshole doctors, or really any service provider for that matter. Just sayin'.

All things considered, I'd rather be treated by Zimmerman's talking iguana.
If I could chose what doctor I wanted to be treated by, I would have to say Bones.

He may have been prickly towards Spock, but when he dealt with patients, he seemed to be a pretty good doctor, with a good bedside manner. Bashir was a bit of an egomaniac, at least in the early seasons. EMH, I have already explained. Phlox just comes off a little bit like a quack, and Crusher, well, seemed to me like if you want to die, you go to her sick bay. I've always wondered if Crusher had that Angel of Death thing going on.
 
Yeah, they are all technically qualified, but I have to say I agree with Laser Beam. While I liked the character, the EMH was a Grade A prick. He had the worst bedside manner and was the biggest and most arrogant dick of them all. Ironic, since he probably is the best at being a doctor, but Zimmerman's assholishness just shines through a little too much.

In "Latent Image" everyone should have slapped the shit out of the EMH. Apparently he thinks he's the only doctor who ever lost a patient. :rolleyes:
 
In "Latent Image" everyone should have slapped the shit out of the EMH. Apparently he thinks he's the only doctor who ever lost a patient. :rolleyes:

I am not really sure what his problem was. I think it's because he finally had an excuse to get rid of Harry Kim and he blew it.
 
And sure, maybe the EMH did, however inadvertently, allow his friendship with Harry to guide the decision on who to treat. Well, so what? The facts are these:

- Harry and Jetal had equally serious injuries
- Both had an equal chance of survival
- Both are of equal rank, and thus (presumably) of equal value to the crew
- There was only time to treat one of them
- If the EMH waits too long, both will die

Given these, something has to help guide the EMH. Anything. I don't care what. Just let him make up his mind already. Flip a damn COIN if he has to!

I mean, even Jetal would not have wanted both her and Harry to die just because the doctor was trying to make himself look objective (which no doctor ever can be). If the EMH decided to treat his friend...well, it's sad that Jetal must die, but that still means one person lives.

Logically speaking, better that only one person dies rather than BOTH.
 
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And sure, maybe the EMH did, however inadvertently, allow his friendship with Harry to guide the decision on who to treat. Well, so what? The facts are these:

- Harry and Jetal had equally serious injuries
- Both had an equal chance of survival
- There was only time to treat one of them
- If the EMH waits too long, both will die

Given these, something has to help guide the EMH. Anything. I don't care what. Just let him make up his damn mind already.

I mean, even Jetal would not have wanted both of them to die just because the doctor was trying to make himself look objective (which no doctor ever can be). If the EMH decided to treat his friend...well, that means one person lives. Logically speaking, better that only one person dies rather than BOTH.

He should have asked Tom to toss a coin, that way he wouldn't have been responsible for the decision.
 
The EMH seems to think that his hologrammatic status means he's better than everyone else. Well, to blazes with that. He is still a sentient being, and thus has the same decision making processes as every member of the crew.

Just because he's a hologram doesn't mean he makes better decisions or fewer mistakes.
 
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