Spoilers Star Trek:Discovery Uniforms Sneak Peak

[fireproof78]

I noticed what appear to be stripes on the sleeves of the Cage uniforms. Seems like a good way to show rank.

The rank system in "The Cage" was actually more simplified for the pilot. I can't find a reference picture, but I believe there was two stripes for captain, one stripe for officers and the rest had no braid.

Someone feel free to correct me or demonstrate more superior Google-fu. For some reason a reference picture is eluding me.

 

[sojourner]

Ooohh! There's an idea! Hair braids to denote rank!

 

[Nerys Myk]

The rank system in "The Cage" was actually more simplified for the pilot. I can't find a reference picture, but I believe there was two stripes for captain, one stripe for officers and the rest had no braid.

Someone feel free to correct me or demonstrate more superior Google-fu. For some reason a reference picture is eluding me.

From what I can tell, all the officers, including Pike had a single solid stripe. Senior enlisted (Chiefs) had a single broken stripe. junior enlisted had no stripe.

 

[jamestyler]

Those early DS9/VOY jumpsuits were reportedly anything but comfortable for the actors to wear, especially for any real length of time.

I've never understood this kind of thing. I've worn outfits drafted from the original pattern/design and they are stupidly comfortable. Bit of a pain in the arse when you need to pee due to the undershirt fastenings, but other than that, they're far more comfortable than the high waist two pieces of the era.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

From what I can tell, all the officers, including Pike had a single solid stripe. Senior enlisted (Chiefs) had a single broken stripe. junior enlisted had no stripe.

I believe you are correct.

The Cage:
http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/pjpeg/0ec15068da8e860a84143133993b73373f20bf4.pjpg

The Cage:
http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/pjpeg/85c250c60cd9389b88b0e9fbb38d7984e773944.pjpg

The Cage:
http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/pjpeg/ce6256f6a4dcf80e8eb032dc8ad370318a5a65f.pjpg

WNMHGB for reference:
http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/65d3508663b0d3e683e9888301f57e77ea5afa9.pjpg

Departmental colors: gold (command), beige (engineering) and light blue (sciences/medical).
Rank stripes: 1 rank braid (captain/officers), a broken braid (NCOs?) and no braid (yeoman).

Images are from Starfleet1701st.yuku.com

 

[Jedman67]

Those early DS9/VOY jumpsuits were reportedly anything but comfortable for the actors to wear, especially for any real length of time.

I've never understood this kind of thing. I've worn outfits drafted from the original pattern/design and they are stupidly comfortable. Bit of a pain in the arse when you need to pee due to the undershirt fastenings, but other than that, they're far more comfortable than the high waist two pieces of the era.

It was meant to appear comfortable-roll-up-your-sleeves type of outfit; for the actors wearing the costume not so much.

 

[jamestyler]

It was meant to appear comfortable-roll-up-your-sleeves type of outfit; for the actors wearing the costume not so much.

Yes. But I'm not talking about wearing the same costume, and the same cut, and appearing comfortable for twelve hours. It's actually comfortable. Especially compared to the other outfits of the era.

 

[Shalashaska]

I like how they wear a field jacket on away missions in The Cage. I'm surprised they never used them in the rest of the shows, perhaps budget didn't allow for it.

Pullover and trousers on-board; simple, comfortable and formal. Field jacket on away missions for utilities and protection.

Makes sense, right?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Denim.

 

[Jedman67]

Yes. But I'm not talking about wearing the same costume, and the same cut, and appearing comfortable for twelve hours. It's actually comfortable. Especially compared to the other outfits of the era.

What you were wearing was a consumer product - something designed to match in appearance a costume seen on a tv show while appealing to the consun. The actual costumes worn had very tight undershirts, designed to give a subtle athletic appearance to the actors. The jumpsuits were meant to be a little snug at the waist and shoulders. The pants had straps meant to be worn under the costume boots, tugging the costumes down slightly.

Denim.

The Enterprise uniforms were denim.

 

[jamestyler]

What you were wearing was a consumer product

No. It wasn't.

What you've went onto describe is pretty much exactly what I own. Except the undershirt isn't skin tight for athletic appearance as much as it's a second skin that doesn't need to be tugged, rolled up or to get undressed just to get it to sit right.

If the barely seen undershirt gave me an athletic appearance, I'd still be wearing it now. And tomorrow. And the next day.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Overalls? So, yes, that sorta makes sense.

It seemed way more plush than my skinny jeans.

 

[Jedman67]

No. It wasn't.

What you've went onto describe is pretty much exactly what I own. Except the undershirt isn't skin tight for athletic appearance as much as it's a second skin that doesn't need to be tugged, rolled up or to get undressed just to get it to sit right.

If the barely seen undershirt gave me an athletic appearance, I'd still be wearing it now. And tomorrow. And the next day.

What you've described sounds like a fairly accurate recreation, unless i'm misreading your original post. HERE is a transcript of an interview with Robert Blackman. There's more in other websites describing how the actors felt about their costumes

Overalls? So, yes, that sorta makes sense.

Thought it was way more plush than that though.

They turned it inside out! http://entjumpsuit.blogspot.com/2015/09/analysis-part-1-fabric.html

 

[uniderth]

Denim.

No.

 

[Tenacity]

Ooohh! There's an idea! Hair braids to denote rank!

Rand must have been a freaking admiral.

 

[jamestyler]

What you've described sounds like a fairly accurate recreation, unless i'm misreading your original post. HERE is a transcript of an interview with Robert Blackman. There's more in other websites describing how the actors felt about their costumes

Yeah. It's not a 'real deal', but it's a pretty accurate representation. Well, in method - not quite in fabrics (I tend to hate the need for 'accuracy' on that front). also managed to get my hands on some actual props in researching, which was quite a joy. Though it felt like I would ruin it and made me extremely paranoid.

The thing with actors is, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, they're whiny. Everyone has a bit of diva in them. Which in a lot of cases (not all) isn't a bad thing.

I've done the job (to a significantly lesser degree - I'm not anywhere near a casting sheet!). I've managed people doing the job. They're ridiculous. I had someone complain for three weeks straight that his outfit was uncomfortable. That it was somehow damaging his performance by being so ridiculously restricting that he, in all seriousness, no longer felt like a real person.

The outfit in question was a loose fitting t-shirt which he had to wear for proximately 30 minutes before a costume change.

Actors complain, and look back and complain, but I always take it with a fiftful of salt. And I'm seriously surprised someone who had to go through much worse (Armin Shimmerman for example as he was brought up in that link) didn't want to punch someone square in the mouth when they did complain

 

[Kor]

The uniform pants should be like JNCO jeans in the 1990s. Anyone remember those?

But seriously, I think something like the "Cage" uniforms, but in a more fitted cut, and a fabric that would look good on contemporary HDTVs, would be great.

Kor

 

[C.E. Evans]

I've never understood this kind of thing. I've worn outfits drafted from the original pattern/design and they are stupidly comfortable. Bit of a pain in the arse when you need to pee due to the undershirt fastenings, but other than that, they're far more comfortable than the high waist two pieces of the era.

What you wore was not the exact same thing the actors wore, apparently. Robert Beltran cited the costumes as being extremely tight (and uncomfortably so) around the shoulders, neck, & waist and that they were prone to giving actors atomic wedgies when simply kneeling or squatting. Garrett Wang split his uniform more than a few times during the run of VOY. When Michael Dorn had to deliver a line in DS9 in which Worf was lauding about the comfort of his uniform, that was really some serious acting on his part.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

The uniform pants should be like JNCO jeans in the 1990s. Anyone remember those?

They kinda, sorta reminded me of Japanese Hakama. Which strikes me as hilarious, how fashions come back again even after hundreds of years! So why not JNCOs in 2255?

If you don't, don't worry, you're probably of this generation:

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[Tim Walker]

Yes, we can imagine styles (hair, clothing, etc.) reappearing after being absent for a long time.