Spoilers Star Trek:Discovery Uniforms Sneak Peak

[Jesse1066]

I massively protest! Not really, but it seems like the logical reaction

Is it my imagination, or have you Caged up the Collars among the tweaks? I considered something like that strangely enough, but as I'm making them and couldn't be bothered with that style, switched it out for cuff/waistband fabric.

I say "making them" - I haven't moved past a mountain of fabric in my bedroom that my wife glares at me for ordering

I did indeed. I thought the quilted look suited it. It definitely looks better on a stiffer, more military style uniform than on the sweaters from The Cage. As for the real life uniforms, I'd love to see the finished result. I think it's great that you have the talent and materials to do that.

 

[jamestyler]

I did indeed. I thought the quilted look suited it. It definitely looks better on a stiffer, more military style uniform than on the sweaters from The Cage. As for the real life uniforms, I'd love to see the finished result. I think it's great that you have the talent and materials to do that.

I have the materials. The talent is questionable

I've always been fascinated in costuming and been playing around for years with different ideas. If I scribble something down, I have an unhealthy obsession with finding out if I can actually make it or not. Which has resulted in a wardrobe filled with stuff that doesn't belong to any costume set

I'm really curious on the new uniforms as - aside from knowing I'll make them - I'm really curious by the options that present themselves. I assumed they'd go beyond the 24th century and open up somethnig new, but now.... it's all about fitting it into the lineage..... I'm really eager to see what they've picked out from the original designs, and how they'll update them. Especially with how well Beyond's turned out.

 

[fireproof78]

Why is McCoy holding his crotch, did he just piss himself?

One bourbon too many, methinks

I made a slightly modified version of your design. I hope you don't mind.

I have two comments to make. First of all, what material are you imagining the insignia being made of? Is it a separate badge, like the Kelvin, or a fabric material like Cage and TOS?

Secondly, I like the colors, but I think they need to be a bit more muted, closer to the Cage and Kelvin era to fit with the evolution of the uniforms.

I have the materials. The talent is questionable

I've always been fascinated in costuming and been playing around for years with different ideas. If I scribble something down, I have an unhealthy obsession with finding out if I can actually make it or not. Which has resulted in a wardrobe filled with stuff that doesn't belong to any costume set

I'm really curious on the new uniforms as - aside from knowing I'll make them - I'm really curious by the options that present themselves. I assumed they'd go beyond the 24th century and open up somethnig new, but now.... it's all about fitting it into the lineage..... I'm really eager to see what they've picked out from the original designs, and how they'll update them. Especially with how well Beyond's turned out.

Have you posted any of your creations at all. I love costuming as well, but my talent is non-existent

Also, with regards to fabric, your comment about your wife made me think of this.

 

[ancient]

This just in!

Trekcore has a sneak peak of the uniforms in the Discovery era!

Spoiler

Sorry, guys I couldn't resist.

Not faithful enough, this isn't my great-great-grandfather's Star Trek, 0/10, sign my petition.

 

[jamestyler]

Have you posted any of your creations at all. I love costuming as well, but my talent is non-existent

Also, with regards to fabric, your comment about your wife made me think of this.

That's not too far of reality - I almost came home with more today after spotting a nice shade of possible science blue ;p

I've posted stuff somewhere..... I'm not too sure where, I'd have to go digging. But usually just progress of the various FC uniforms I make and other bits and pieces.

I've been working on a whole uniform set on and off for years (mainly perfecting a BDU inspired outfit - now on version 4!) but its a weird little side project I just keep to myself - no one knows what it is other than me so I don't document it that much :/

 

[fireproof78]

That's not too far of reality - I almost came home with more today after spotting a nice shade of possible science blue ;p

I've posted stuff somewhere..... I'm not too sure where, I'd have to go digging. But usually just progress of the various FC uniforms I make and other bits and pieces.

I've been working on a whole uniform set on and off for years (mainly perfecting a BDU inspired outfit - now on version 4!) but its a weird little side project I just keep to myself - no one knows what it is other than me so I don't document it that much :/

That's fair. I have my own weird little side projects involving old Micro Machines, so I can understand that. I just was curious because I enjoy seeing fan takes on different Starfleet uniforms. Uniforms are probably one of my favorite things to inspect, dissect and come up with fun variations.

I hope the BDU project comes out well

 

[arch101]

I posted this earlier in the other uniform thread. I think it has a place in this conversation as well.

I'd be perfectly fine with this.

 

[-SS-]

No skirts please. Unless the men get to wear them too.

 

[fireproof78]

No skirts, please. Seems rather impractical, especially given the era.

 

[Venardhi]

I'd like to see something like this, potentially with "The Cage" uniform colors.

 

[jamestyler]

No skirts please. Unless the men get to wear them too.

Odd observation of the day, but I've noticed a lot of female players in games - particularly STO - enjoy the skirts. My wife included, who's asked me to make her a Trek uniform, but only if she can have skirt options. A lot of female friends enjoy being able to wear dresses and skirts to work. Not all of them, but a fair amount.

With Starfleet being a less military orginisation (though even militaries have skirt options), if someone wants to wear a dress or a skirt.... why wouldn't they? Would equality become an era where we say "No, dress like the men!" and cut out an option that many feel comfortable and confident in?

I don't think it's worth debating to death. If they want to include dresses, fine. If not, also fine.

The only revision I'd make if they went to TOS for guidance is to use a fabric that maybe doesn't shrink. The hazards of that were seen on both sexes in the 60's - I half expected Kirk's sleeves to stop at his elbows as time went on.

That's fair. I have my own weird little side projects involving old Micro Machines, so I can understand that. I just was curious because I enjoy seeing fan takes on different Starfleet uniforms. Uniforms are probably one of my favorite things to inspect, dissect and come up with fun variations.

I hope the BDU project comes out well

Me too. I've spent far too much time on it Realising my lack of any actual documentation, I've put up notes here with a few pics, but it's more like a mad rambling. Though most of the stuff I put online is actual canon uniforms (for example!) and I can bore people to tears with too much detail on each as I get far too carried away with things

I don't expect anything like my mad scribblings would end up mirroring anything in the real Trek world - but I am hoping that new Trek has a similar level of variation.

TNG had people doing everything from digging a hole to shooting aliens in a formal two piece suit. The Kelvin world had a nice variation - you have your bright and shiny mission outfit, your standard ground wear, formals, industrial/jumpsuit - everything had it's purpose; if a uniform is suitable for one thing, and not for another - change it. Put a coat on. Whatever it takes to make the sequence a bit more believable and visually interesting.

Jumping up a bit to skirts/dresses - having a unisex outfit to fit all, and optional variants (casual mens thing like Kirk had in TMP, casual womens dress/skirt) would make the show a bit more visually interesting than a one size fits all uniform. Which doesn't just help visually (or with believability), but if we go back to action figures (hopefully!) they sell better - and sell more - with variations.

Say the new female lead has her standard uniform, a dress variant, an away jacket, maybe an industrial wear/jumpsuit - thats four styles for TV, four action figures to sell, four costumes for people to wear at cons and possibly four 'moods' to mirror in a scene.

 

[KennyB]

I posted this earlier in the other uniform thread. I think it has a place in this conversation as well.

Love these as well!

 

[Venardhi]

With Starfleet being a less military orginisation (though even militaries have skirt options), if someone wants to wear a dress or a skirt.... why wouldn't they? Would equality become an era where we say "No, dress like the men!" and cut out an option that many feel comfortable and confident in?
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TNG had people doing everything from digging a hole to shooting aliens in a formal two piece suit. The Kelvin world had a nice variation - you have your bright and shiny mission outfit, your standard ground wear, formals, industrial/jumpsuit - everything had it's purpose; if a uniform is suitable for one thing, and not for another - change it. Put a coat on. Whatever it takes to make the sequence a bit more believable and visually interesting.

Jumping up a bit to skirts/dresses - having a unisex outfit to fit all, and optional variants (casual mens thing like Kirk had in TMP, casual womens dress/skirt) would make the show a bit more visually interesting than a one size fits all uniform. Which doesn't just help visually (or with believability), but if we go back to action figures (hopefully!) they sell better - and sell more - with variations.

Say the new female lead has her standard uniform, a dress variant, an away jacket, maybe an industrial wear/jumpsuit - thats four styles for TV, four action figures to sell, four costumes for people to wear at cons and possibly four 'moods' to mirror in a scene.

All of this. There is no reason that the Starfleet as we've seen it should really even have such strict uniform policies for 100% of the on-duty crew. Bridge crew? Away teams? Engineers? Sure, give them a standard issue uniform, but they really don't make sense to be anything like each other. I liked the Pike-era away jackets as a start. My uniform designs are always thought out in layers that can be added and removed depending on the circumstances. Not only is it more realistic, it looks better.

And with that said, here is a variation of what I posted above with more subdued era-appropriate colors while still maintaining the more distinctive primary color triad that Star Trek has used in most of its incarnations:

And apparently my laptop monitor is badly calibrated. Forgive the quick photoshop artifacts.

 

[The Impaler]

I'd like to see something like this, potentially with "The Cage" uniform colors.

My first thought when looking at these was hell no. Probably because of the grey. Then the primary's caught my eye and I thought hell yes! Then I realized the grey's were likely field jackets. I really like these a lot. Love the rank on the black shoulders. Kind of a classic dress military look isn't it?

 

[The Impaler]

All of this. There is no reason that the Starfleet as we've seen it should really even have such strict uniform policies for 100% of the on-duty crew. Bridge crew? Away teams? Engineers? Sure, give them a standard issue uniform, but they really don't make sense to be anything like each other. I liked the Pike-era away jackets as a start. My uniform designs are always thought out in layers that can be added and removed depending on the circumstances. Not only is it more realistic, it looks better.

And with that said, here is a variation of what I posted above with more subdued era-appropriate colors while still maintaining the more distinctive primary color triad that Star Trek has used in most of its incarnations:

And apparently my laptop monitor is badly calibrated. Forgive the quick photoshop artifacts.

I like these as well, but would prefer the bolder colors. Still a pretty good look here. Honestly, out of all the iteration of uniforms we have seen on YV and film, I'd say these (with the bolder colors) are my favorite.

 

[fireproof78]

Odd observation of the day, but I've noticed a lot of female players in games - particularly STO - enjoy the skirts. My wife included, who's asked me to make her a Trek uniform, but only if she can have skirt options. A lot of female friends enjoy being able to wear dresses and skirts to work. Not all of them, but a fair amount.

With Starfleet being a less military orginisation (though even militaries have skirt options), if someone wants to wear a dress or a skirt.... why wouldn't they? Would equality become an era where we say "No, dress like the men!" and cut out an option that many feel comfortable and confident in?

I don't think it's worth debating to death. If they want to include dresses, fine. If not, also fine.

The only revision I'd make if they went to TOS for guidance is to use a fabric that maybe doesn't shrink. The hazards of that were seen on both sexes in the 60's - I half expected Kirk's sleeves to stop at his elbows as time went on.



Me too. I've spent far too much time on it Realising my lack of any actual documentation, I've put up notes here with a few pics, but it's more like a mad rambling. Though most of the stuff I put online is actual canon uniforms (for example!) and I can bore people to tears with too much detail on each as I get far too carried away with things

I don't expect anything like my mad scribblings would end up mirroring anything in the real Trek world - but I am hoping that new Trek has a similar level of variation.

TNG had people doing everything from digging a hole to shooting aliens in a formal two piece suit. The Kelvin world had a nice variation - you have your bright and shiny mission outfit, your standard ground wear, formals, industrial/jumpsuit - everything had it's purpose; if a uniform is suitable for one thing, and not for another - change it. Put a coat on. Whatever it takes to make the sequence a bit more believable and visually interesting.

Jumping up a bit to skirts/dresses - having a unisex outfit to fit all, and optional variants (casual mens thing like Kirk had in TMP, casual womens dress/skirt) would make the show a bit more visually interesting than a one size fits all uniform. Which doesn't just help visually (or with believability), but if we go back to action figures (hopefully!) they sell better - and sell more - with variations.

Say the new female lead has her standard uniform, a dress variant, an away jacket, maybe an industrial wear/jumpsuit - thats four styles for TV, four action figures to sell, four costumes for people to wear at cons and possibly four 'moods' to mirror in a scene.

I appreciate you sharing your work and insights. I agree with most of your points, though I think that the skirts need to be option or regulated to specific duty stations or times. I would think that a security officer or engineering officer would want pants in a situation that may require a lot of movement, but that's me. I do want the uniforms to be practical.

Casually, I could care less. I would also hope that there might be a few more variations in civilian attire as well.

 

[Venardhi]

My first thought when looking at these was hell no. Probably because of the grey. Then the primary's caught my eye and I thought hell yes! Then I realized the grey's were likely field jackets. I really like these a lot. Love the rank on the black shoulders. Kind of a classic dress military look isn't it?

Not necessarily field jackets. I was thinking the shirt layer would be the main uniform with various duty-specific outer layers. This could be a field jacket or a bridge officer/dress jacket. There could be a jumpsuit over the whole shebang for the engineering crew, a heavier variant with pockets and the like for a field jacket, etc.

 

[jamestyler]

And with that said, here is a variation of what I posted above with more subdued era-appropriate colors while still maintaining the more distinctive primary color triad that Star Trek has used in most of its incarnations:

Odd thought - but what do you imagine the cuff braidings are? This question may come from that realm of thought that makes me remove things because "that's a pain in the arse stitching that, change it!"

I appreciate you sharing your work and insights. I agree with most of your points, though I think that the skirts need to be option or regulated to specific duty stations or times. I would think that a security officer or engineering officer would want pants in a situation that may require a lot of movement, but that's me. I do want the uniforms to be practical.

I'm maybe being too simplistic, but when it came down to specific duties and deciding to wear a skirt or trousers, I'd just call the outcome a 'common sense' option. Though I'd hope Trek's costume designers do offer a more comfortable fit for any skirt/dress options than real world military proposals!

That said - I wouldn't mind seeing security officers assigned to guarding/protection wearing something a little more beefed up. I completely blame BSG for that, however. I was quite keen on the marines kicking about in the background and being a little more obvious in their presence. Visually someone being captured and escorted through the halls (like Khan in ID) would look bolder and more threatening with a more 'armoured' guard presence.

Their deck crew wearing more appropriate gear was also a nice sight. Hopefully we get something like that again - even if it is the karate outfit Kyle and others wore on TOS.

 

[Venardhi]

Odd thought - but what do you imagine the cuff braidings are? This question may come from that realm of thought that makes me remove things because "that's a pain in the arse stitching that, change it!"

Rank and department. I designed a system of them using a series of lines and lines broken with chevrons.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Looks like an EKG that measures your stress level with every promotion.