Not true - Pike seemed to know most of his senior staff and the CE was certainly a commissioned officer
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Not true - Pike seemed to know most of his senior staff and the CE was certainly a commissioned officer
If Kirk is the first person Pike thinks of when choosing a new first officer, I'm surprised he even HAD a senior staff.
I mean, sure, Kirk was already a Lieutenant by that point, but it still begs the question. Were there absolutely no other senior officers aboard? No LCDRs or CDRs? I find that unlikely.
I mean, sure, Kirk was already a Lieutenant by that point, but it still begs the question. Were there absolutely no other senior officers aboard? No LCDRs or CDRs? I find that unlikely.
I'm talking about the cadets, which McCoy is one.
^ Not anymore. McCoy clearly had the rank of Lieutenant Commander, even before he first set foot on the Enterprise.
I'm guessing Pike could choose anyone he pleased to fill the role.
Kirk was referred to as "Cadet"
There was quite a few Lt Cdrs and LTs on the bridge - including the cute red head in Science
There was quite a few Lt Cdrs and LTs on the bridge - including the cute red head in Science
Kirk had the rank of Lieutenant while still studying at the academy, just like Saavik in TWOK.
And maybe the Lt. Cmdrs. on board weren't in the command division and didn't have the training to take the bridge.
Even in TOS, there were times when Lt. Sulu was put in command even though there were presumably Lt.Cmdrs on board. "Errand of Mercy," for instance.
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And maybe the Lt. Cmdrs. on board weren't in the command division and didn't have the training to take the bridge.
Even in TOS, there were times when Lt. Sulu was put in command even though there were presumably Lt.Cmdrs on board. "Errand of Mercy," for instance.
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But he was also at the cadet board of inquiry wearing a cadet dress uniform. It looked like graduates wore the grey dress uniforms.
When he and Sulu are being transported up from the drill, the readout screen identifies Kirk as a Lieutenant.
My guess is that during the hearing, which is interrupted by the attack on Vulcan, Kirk was about to graduate from the Academy with the rank of Lieutenant just like he did in the prime timeline. So since he was going to be given that rank anyway, that's what the transporter readout said he was.
As for McCoy, maybe it's different because he is a doctor. Military doctors don't have to work their way up the ranks like line officers do. Once they graduate they are immediately given the rank of at least O-3 (Lieutenant in the navy, Captain in the army). So this could explain the uniform.
How could it know this as Kirk had not reported for duty, he was suspended from duty and from the academy! Once Kirk's presence was known, there was no time for them to enter him into the computer's memory and data banks.
There is no visual evidence to indicate Kirk was a a Lt at the academy in this timeline - I've looked at his cadet uniform and there is no difference to the others.
As for McCoy, is not practice for Starfleet to give their medical students a commision as a mid ranking officer directly?
The Enterprise would travel most of it's distance through intergalactic space, while Voyager was traveling through a galaxy.
Maybe that's the difference?
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Aside from the fact that the ENT in TMP could make the 16ly journey to Vulcan in four days. That's about 1460ly per year. Or about 50 years to do VOY jounrey (of course thats assuming no stops) but VOY would have to spend 115 or so days stopped every year for the journey to last 70 years at TMP speeds. The real reasons are several
1.>They invoked the trope 'Viewers are Morons' 1 year = 1000 light years is easy for the viewer to follow heaven forbid we should have to think. They simply hope people would ignore these details but Sci-Fi fans are well known for paying attention to details. The average viewer not so much.
2.>They simply had no grasp of speed/distances and all the ST are quilty of this. The speeds given in WNOHGB before are more realisitc as it would be about 20ly per day or Earth to Vulcan in less than a day. So you could zip from star system to star system with hours.
Did the inconsistancy in travel time really hurt VOY, not really but perhaps it was the symptom of a wider issue when it came to the writing. SUre some of it might be down to studio interferrence but take the Photon torpedeo line, they brought my attention to how many they have and the fact that they had no way to replace them. It's putting up a big flashing neon sign, this is important you need to be aware of this. Then to simply ignore it is bad story telling. If the writers wish to place limits on themselves great, but if that limit becomes incoveniant you don't simply ignore it you write your way out of it. It takes all of a few seconds
"Captain's Log Engineering reports they have found a way to replenish or photon supply."
You don't really need to go into details of how they have overcome the problem unless you want to but one way shows contempt for your audiance the other shows respect.
Actually, since Scotty wasn't yet a member of the Enterprise's crew in that scene, he wouldn't have been in the ship's chain of command.
Well, Riker didn't, but the implication is he could have easily kept his Captain's rank and been given command of another ship, he just chose to stay on the Enterprise as first officer. As for Shelby, we really know nothing of her post-TBOBW, so she could very well have kept her new rank at her next assignment.
True, but he was the highest ranking officer on the Bridge
Still, command would fall to the next highest ranking officer on the Enterprise's crew. Whoever that was could turn command over to Scotty, but it would have to be their choice. Even Admirals don't typically step in and take command of a ship by virtue of being the highest ranking officer present.
Pressman tried to
I don't think they legally can in the modern US navy. In order to command a ship, they have to be part of the chain of command.
*polite cough* Which is why the Royal Navy is better
Somehow people think that rank and command go hand in hand.
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