The Walking Dead Season 6 Discussion

[Mojochi]

What?? People in a truck are at a total disadvantage:

• Their range of motion is compromised in the truck, so any defensive / offensive move they make would be telegraphing for Negan's crew, thus the free, positioned enemy would have the seconds needed to shoot the heroes down.
• Turning and running? In the seconds it would take to even try that, Negan's crew would open fire. No vehicle would move fast enough to escape.

They were caught by a group free to move and sight their targets from several angles. There's no escaping that, unless the heroes suddenly wanted to end it all. Clearly they do not, so the only sensible option available to them was to compliance.

Wait a minute. I totally forgot Abe has a damn RPG! They turn a corner & down the road is a clump of guys on bikes with assault rifles. You HAVE to know it's trouble. Who does that? You slam on the breaks, fire a grenade down the road, to give them something to think about, even if it misses, & then back up around the bend, so you can all dash into the adjacent woods, to wait for their approach, because yeah, now that I think about it, it's a fuel truck. Probably not best to hang around it in a fire fight, but you still don't just give in to capture

Daryl is now becoming the most captured cast member on the entire show. Captured by Woodbury, Captured by Joe's claimers, Captured by Terminus, Captured by Negan's refugees, & now captured by Negans squad. Did I miss anybody?

Oh yeah, he let Beth get captured by Slabtownies, where she ended up dead

 

[Ethros]

btw, do fangirls still have that "if Daryl dies we riot" ethos?
As frankly would anyone would even notice at this point? I'd almost forgotten he still existed when we saw that extra scene. What's he even done lately, I know there was that episode a couple of weeks ago but that was so tedious and dull I was hardly paying attention. He just rides round on his bike and occasionally mumbles something.


Same for Sasha, Rosita and Eugene. So much dead wood in this show now. Oh yeah and what about that other black guy they introduced earlier this season? lol he quickly vanished.

You don't like the show. We get your thing now.

Jesus. Sorry for not being 100% positive about everything in it. I actually admitted and apologised that my first post yesterday was pretty ranty, quite a rarity on this board (to apologise.)
If you don't agree with my or anyone else's opinions then argue your case and simply express how you feel. No need to try shut people down or just laugh in their face at the shock horror that one of the other 7 billion people in the world has an opinion different to yours. Even if I still loved the show I think I'd still give this a thread a miss if this how folk talk to one another. Ta ta

 

[Ryan8bit]

They turn a corner & down the road is a clump of guys on bikes with assault rifles. You HAVE to know it's trouble. Who does that? You slam on the breaks, fire a grenade down the road, to give them something to think about, even if it misses, & then back up around the bend, so you can all dash into the adjacent woods, to wait for their approach, because yeah, now that I think about it, it's a fuel truck. Probably not best to hang around it in a fire fight, but you still don't just give in to capture

By the time Daryl saw these people though, they were in regular gun firing range. That's not a good time to get out of the truck and start preparing your RPG.

Every fan suggestion I see of how this scenario should have been handled seems like it wouldn't work.

 

[Trekker4747]

btw, do fangirls still have that "if Daryl dies we riot" ethos?
As frankly would anyone would even notice at this point? I'd almost forgotten he still existed when we saw that extra scene. What's he even done lately, I know there was that episode a couple of weeks ago but that was so tedious and dull I was hardly paying attention. He just rides round on his bike and occasionally mumbles something.


Same for Sasha, Rosita and Eugene. So much dead wood in this show now. Oh yeah and what about that other black guy they introduced earlier this season? lol he quickly vanished.

You don't like the show. We get your thing now.

Jesus. Sorry for not being 100% positive about everything in it. I actually admitted and apologised that my first post yesterday was pretty ranty, quite a rarity on this board (to apologise.)
If you don't agree with my or anyone else's opinions then argue your case and simply express how you feel. No need to try shut people down or just laugh in their face at the shock horror that one of the other 7 billion people in the world has an opinion different to yours. Even if I still loved the show I think I'd still give this a thread a miss if this how folk talk to one another. Ta ta

It's fine to not like the show but the last several post from you have been strongly speaking against it in very hyperbolic manner. So it's one thing to not like the show, it's another to mention "that episode a couple weeks ago that was so tedious and dull I was hardly paying attention."

If you don't like the show, give up on it and go away. If you don't like an episode, say so and express those thoughts without delving into hyperbole and extremes. (I mean, really? You forgot all about Daryl because we haven't seen him in two weeks?)

But coming in here and ranting about the show week-after-week? Yeah, that's a bit annoying. Hell, I can watch a show I don't like and enter into its discussion thread every week and rant out against the things in it that or bad. But I have better things to do with my time.

You don't have to always be positive but always being negative? That's a bit grating. Especially when it's expressed in extremes and hyperbole.

I didn't too much care for the "Eastman episode" as I didn't see the need for it to be 90 minutes long and the ideas expressed in it do not gel with this world the characters live in. An "all life matters" philosophy is a stupid one to have when there's groups of people out there out to kill you. This isn't like when Herschel tried bringing Rick and Carl back from the brink of their respective insanities of killing people on a whim or having a darker look on life; this was a man telling someone not to kill people, for any reason, and a world where there's groups of people out there actively killing others for supplies. (Not to mention that I don't respect the notion of not killing animals when you intend to use them for food, or that the notion of "all life matters" apparently comes with an asterisk after it that says "except for microbial life and plant life because, seriously, fuck them.")

So, I'm not sure what we were supposed to take from that episode. It was a waste of time because the show was "teaching us" a notion that is incompatible with this kind of world and we see it bite Morgan in the ass, indirectly, when he doesn't kill the group of Wolves and they end up ambushing Rick in the RV.

I get capturing a Wolf and trying to extract info from them, but that's not what Morgan is doing; he's trying to rehabilitate him which the guy seems unwilling or unable to do and there's no way he'd be accepted in the community. So what's Morgan's end game? The Wolf should have been killed.

But that's about the level of expression I get to when it comes to that episode. Not "pfft. Is this series all about Morgan now? Who else is in it, where's the pretty brown-haired chick, I forgot she existed because I haven't seen her in a couple episodes! I'm going to stop watching this show... Sorta. I'll record it on my DVR and watch it all later and see if it got better. But I doubt it will. Pack in it, this show is done and out of steam even though it's a bit a big game-changing point for the setting the characters are in and they're about to introduce a big villain who's going to cause a lot of pain for the characters. Oh, and the show still dominates in the ratings and was already renewed for a new season. But, man, this show is lame. Thanks, Obama!"

 

[sojourner]

So is the Carol Hate. "Carol Worship" is so high because Carol needs more defending than anybody else in the cast.

Who hates Carol? She's a bad ass. Doesn't mean we can't point out mistakes.

Only if the events you point out are actually mistakes. There's a difference between mistakes and actions she takes that you don't like.

 

[hux]

But coming in here and ranting about the show week-after-week? Yeah, that's a bit annoying.

It's annoying to you. Personally, I enjoy reading it.

You are not the fucking gatekeeper of the Walking Dead thread. The amount of passive-aggressive shit that comes from you and Sojourner however, does annoy me.

"Yeah, we get it, you don't like the show."

"The Carol worship here is absurdly high."

"If you don't like the show then don't watch it."

How people express themselves about the show is frankly none of your fucking business.

 

[Ethros]

^ cheers dude.

And I know I may look a dick now posting with what I just said..
But I have to just say that "week after week" comment is bullshit. I hardly ever post on the whole TrekBBS any more, certainly not a lot in this thread. I'm a long way from some regular basher (like certain folk in MCU threads for example.) So I don't appreciate that.

 

[sojourner]

But coming in here and ranting about the show week-after-week? Yeah, that's a bit annoying.

It's annoying to you. Personally, I enjoy reading it.

You are not the fucking gatekeeper of the Walking Dead thread. The amount of passive-aggressive shit that comes from you and Sojourner however, does annoy me.

"Yeah, we get it, you don't like the show."

"The Carol worship here is absurdly high."

"If you don't like the show then don't watch it."

How people express themselves about the show is frankly none of your fucking business.

None of those quotes are mine. Don't try to lump me in just because you don't like me criticizing some of Carol's actions.

 

[Caligula]

What was the deal with the ants? Just to show how tuned-out Sam was?

Seems to me that the ants... who were at that moment creeping through a crack in the window... served as a visual metaphor for the walkers, who were creeping through the newly-made hole in the walls of Alexandria.

 

[Admiral2]

Who hates Carol? She's a bad ass. Doesn't mean we can't point out mistakes.

Only if the events you point out are actually mistakes. There's a difference between mistakes and actions she takes that you don't like.

 

[Trekker4747]

^ cheers dude.

And I know I may look a dick now posting with what I just said..
But I have to just say that "week after week" comment is bullshit. I hardly ever post on the whole TrekBBS any more, certainly not a lot in this thread. I'm a long way from some regular basher (like certain folk in MCU threads for example.) So I don't appreciate that.

You have nine posts in this thread, all of the ones about the show are negative ones amounting to, "that was boring/useless/pointless."

 

[Mojochi]

By the time Daryl saw these people though, they were in regular gun firing range. That's not a good time to get out of the truck and start preparing your RPG.

Every fan suggestion I see of how this scenario should have been handled seems like it wouldn't work.

I didn't mean to suggest they stop & get out when they see them, which was right after they rounded the curve in the road, which is more than 50 yards maybe. Jam the breaks, hit reverse, until you're back around the curve again, & not able to be shot at (For some seconds)

Make them chase you back around that curve. 1. They've got motorcycles, which are entirely unstable as an assault vehicle from which to fire a weapon. When you have a few seconds to get clear, then get out & get cover, & set your RPG

 

[Locutus of Bored]

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[TREK_GOD_1]

So is the Carol Hate. "Carol Worship" is so high because Carol needs more defending than anybody else in the cast.

Agreed. You see it in Walking Dead threads on this board; for all of Rick's faults, you see more defending his every move and thought, while some of the same critics slash & hack Carol for wafer-thin reasons.

I know you say there isn't hate, but I'm pretty sure this is what people refer to when they say Carol hate. I mean, this is beyond criticizing her actions, which is fair game, to criticizing the foundations of the character and complaining that other people like her too much, which is bizarre.

True--they have created utterly hollow, slapped together charges against the essence of the character, while steering clear of characters who had the moral bottom drop out years ago, and never changed in any positive way (including now killed off characters with bad track records). Its all about some irrational hatred of the Carol character--who knows what motivates that, but its not based on the facts f the character.

Wait a minute. I totally forgot Abe has a damn RPG! They turn a corner & down the road is a clump of guys on bikes with assault rifles. You HAVE to know it's trouble. Who does that?

Remember, the second Sasha warned Daryl, it was too late; they were in the line of sight of Negan's men. Hitting the brakes is just giving more time to the enemies, while the heroes would be in the process of adjusting to the sudden stop / trying to ready weapons.

There was no time, and resistance would have invited being sprayed with bullets. So, your choice is: surrender, or try some impossible escape move and end up seriously wounded (with no serious medical care) or dead.

Daryl is now becoming the most captured cast member on the entire show. Captured by Woodbury, Captured by Joe's claimers, Captured by Terminus, Captured by Negan's refugees, & now captured by Negans squad. Did I miss anybody?

Joe offered Daryl membership, so the initial contact does not count.

Regarding other captured characters:

Glenn: Woodbury & Terminus.
Maggie: Woodbury & Terminus.
Sasha & Abraham: Terminus & Negan's group.
Michonne: Governor 2.0 & Terminus.

But all others were captured one time (Beth, Andrea, Hershel, Rick, Carl, Rosita, Eugene, Bob, Tara) or not at all (Carol, T-Dog, Lori, Shane, Dale, Judith, Tyreese).

 

[Trekker4747]

Considering Judith is a baby and is incapable of making her own decisions about where she goes and with whom, isn't she always in a state of "being captured?"

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Considering Judith is a baby and is incapable of making her own decisions about where she goes and with whom, isn't she always in a state of "being captured?"

I guess not in a strict sense, since she's not getting caught off guard (Merle kidnapping Glenn & Maggie / the 6B Negan prologue), or stumbling into traps (walking into Terminus).

 

[EmoBorg]

A video where the former cast members of the show talk about what they doing now. It includes short intervews with actors who played Hershel, T-Dog, Karen, Gareth and Sophia among others.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-PNCTCc8CI

 

[RJDiogenes]

Bosch, like the appliances. Not like Hieronymus.

"Micchone's Pets" are guests at the con.

Sophie has certainly grown up in the afterlife. Some of these guys I don't even remember, like Jackie and Joe. Nice to see Tyreese and Herschel. No sign of Dale, though.

 

[publiusr]

She looks'a bit like Shape from Halloween, the flames washing out her face.

She probably did have a concussion--it hasn't been that long since she got run down by a car. Frankly, I might have emptied my revolver into Morgan--that move of his could very easily have broken her back. I completely blame him for the Wolf's escape.

Now, the de facto medic could have refused to treat anyone else unless both parties dropped their weapons. Neither Morgan nor Carol needed to act unilaterally.

I'm glad Glenn is alive but honestly, I think they lose some credibility...

There has to be some price for this. You don't get Spock back without killing David and the Enterprise.

I thought Carol was going to buy it during the Wolf attack. Not from any Wolf of course--but remember the poor woman in charge of the armory? Carol gave her a pistol (cue Chekhov's gun) and told her to shoot anyone who opened the door.

So Carol goes bad-ass, kills the Wolves, opens the door to tell the woman everything's okay and...bang

Also, at this point, I think my Enid-is-with-the-bad-guys theory (that I know at least a few others shared) has to finally go out the window.

Not so sure.

What with JSS--that sounds like a motto of the Wolves, the girl was talking to Carl, and said "we.." before Carl interupted her

I love how Carl dropped some knowledge on Porch Dick junior.

And, yeah, keep a Wolf alive, cause he won't break out and cause problems later, right?

Still Team Carol.

Never would have been an option for the guy to escape if Morgan and his lame as hell "every life matters" outlook hadn't been keeping him around.

That Wolf guy is exactly the kind of guy you kill right away in a zombie apocalypse.

Agreed.

Still, I was the most angry seeing that tower fall--not what Morgan did.

I probably would have been screaming like Deanna Janeway myself:

"ALL THAT WORK!! ALL THAT F@##ing WORK!!!"

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Some of these guys I don't even remember, like Jackie and Joe.

Jackie was the member of Rick's group in S1 who decided to stay behind at the CDC when it self-destructed, and Joe was the leader of the "Claimers" that Daryl was briefly traveling with after the prison fell in S4; the ones who were hunting down Rick.