Agents of SHIELD - Season 2 Discussion Threads. (Spoilers Likely)
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My idea would be shriveled limbs in some kind of iron lung type contraption, but keep his head mostly human size.
We know that DD has powers, but the general public doesn't. To the world at large, he's a non-powered street vigilante. That would be police business, not SHIELD business.
Then they could have a Coulson/Hill guest on DD. At the end of an episode, pull back to Coulson & Hill watching video of the final scene and saying something like "We should keep an eye on this one. Blah...blah....blah". Alternately, at the end DD goes off and the camera pulls back and they're standing there and say the same thing.
It's hard to see what purpose an episode like that would really serve for the Daredevil show unless they honestly intended to do a major crossover at some point. The appeal of this show is how tightly wrapped the story is - everything fits together, they don't just throw out random episodes that tell completely irrelevant side stories. Not to mention SHIELD is a shadow of its former self which more than has its hands full fighting Hydra and various obviously powered bad guys. There's no reason for Daredevil to be on their radar.
Can you remind me what gave the suggestion?
The only newspaper headlines I remember were about
Hulk in Harlem and the Battle of New York.
Maybe have Matt Murdock represent a newly powered human who accidently destroys some building in Hell's Kitchen and Coulson and friends look them up...
There was another one with the headline "CYBERTEK SETTLES", on a wall in the New York Bulletin editor's office. You can see it here.
Cybertek is the name of the company behind Project Deathlok. Their dirty secrets (including ties to Hydra) were exposed at the end of the season.
Cybertek is the name of the company behind Project Deathlok. Their dirty secrets (including ties to Hydra) were exposed at the end of the season.
Maybe when Daredevil, Cage, Iron Fist, and Jessica Jones get together as the Defenders they'll have a high enough profile for SHIELD to notice.
Hm. On a certain level, it just feels implausible to me. I find it hard to imagine that the revelation of Hydra's existence and the Project Insight plan wouldn't be a prominent topic of conversation and news every day for months on end. To me, that kind of revelation would be a Hurricane Katrina-level, or possibly even 9/11-level, event in terms of its effects on the culture at large. It just feels incongruous to imagine people aren't constantly talking about it if Daredevil takes place some time after the fall of SHIELD.
Well after the Hulk's scrap in Harlem, the Chitauri attack, Greenwich, SHIELD's collapse and now Ultron, these things must start to bleed together. People become numb to shock after a while.
I remember back during the IRA's bombing campaign it wasn't like the average person became obsessed with the subject every time something else blew up. It was just more horribleness on the news.
Yeah. I'm inclined to believe that people just didn't stop talking about it either, it's just that the story itself tends to focus on a cast of characters with more immediate matters.
Say what you will about Hydra, the fall of SHIELD, Project Insight and all of that, but those are pretty international matters far away, when really the heroes and villains in Daredevil are all primarily concerned about one neighborhood; Hydra's exposure is important to the world sure, but that's secondary when it comes to mob bosses beating up local communities. And moreso, other people are handling Hydra; no one was really dealing with Kingpin until the show started, so for Hell's Kitchen, priorities are different. Yes, Katrina was bad, but if your house thousands of miles away is going to get foreclosed, you're going to shift your attention there more than relief efforts. People are different and scattered, so priorities will also be different.
I don't really see why they would be talking about it on the show. It really has no direct impact on the actual story or characters in Daredevil, so there was no need for it to come up. Daredevil as a show is pretty lazer focused on the stories of Matt and Fisk, so it makes sense they wouldn't bring up events unrelated to them, even if they did happen.
Besides, this is all happening pretty much in real time. The Insight incident and the fall of SHIELD happened in April 2014, a year before the events of Daredevil. The Ultron affair happened shortly after the events of DD. Granted, DD isn't quite in real time, since it was all released on the same day but spans a few weeks. But if we assume it spanned roughly the month of April 2015, then it's a year after Insight and it's before Ultron. So I don't find it implausible at all that they weren't talking about the events of the movies.
I thought the whole point was that the newspaper article indicated that DD S1 happened only shortly after AoS S1?
What article? You mean the Cybertek one that was up on a wall somewhere? I couldn't see that in the provided screencap (which was teensy-tiny), but if it was a clipping on a wall, then it was an old article, one important enough to frame and display, like the Hulk and Battle of New York headlines on Ben's bulletin board.
Alternatively, if it said "Cybertek Settles," then that could've been after months of legal proceedings following their exposure at the end of the season. So no, I see no reason to take that headline as evidence that the show takes place right after AoS season 1.
I think it's a bit of a stretch to think that national security issues weren't leapfrogged to 11 after the Project Insight debacle, where not one, not two, but THREE flying aircraft carriers armed to the teeth crashed into the Potomac less than 10 blocks away from the White House, and less than a year after the sitting Vice-President tried to have President Ellis assasssinated. Even for a comic book universe, that's pretty fucked up.
Anyway, in regard to Daredevil, all it would have taken would have been some news report mentioning an "alert level" similar to the "Terror alert" warnings that used to be broadcast daily in the weeks after 9/11. I'm mostly ok with the fact that there wasn't any such mention, but at the same time I find it highly dubious that even a year after all those events taking place, there weren't some holdover ramifications.
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