Really? That's weird.
The image at full size is 2560x1600. That would explain Christopher's reply, then. I wonder how that could have happened.Oh well, I'll just save it and link it from my Imgur account. How's this?
Agents of SHIELD - Season 2 Discussion Threads. (Spoilers Likely)
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The image at full size is 2560x1600. That would explain Christopher's reply, then. I wonder how that could have happened.Oh well, I'll just save it and link it from my Imgur account. How's this?
Well, correct me if I am wrong, but was there not a reference to the Battle of New York as having happened two years ago in the first episode of DD S1?
If that's the case and the Chitauri invasion happened roughly two years prior to DD S1, and if DD S1 is set some time after AoS S1, then that implies a relatively short time frame -- long enough after AoS S1 that at least some legal fallout ("Cybertek Settles") could have happened, but not so long that people would be more likely to refer to it as having been three years instead of two. So in other words, it's probably set some time in 2014.
Add to this that the weather in DD S1 precludes winter, and add the presumption that SHIELD fell in April 2014 and that AoS S1 concluded by May 2014, and I'm thinking that gives us basically a six-month window during which DD S1 could have taken place -- some time between May and November 2014, give or take a month.
(Side-note: Why is Cybertek "settling" anything? If the U.S. government has been given conclusive evidence that Cybertek is a front organization for the terrorist group that just tried to kill 20 million people and overthrow the government, why did the FBI simply not seize all of its assets and arrest its personnel, and the Treasury Department freeze its accounts? Is the MCU's U.S. Justice Department even more toothless than its real-world counterpart?
)This. I mean, one of the reasons 9/11 dominated day to day life for months after the attacks was that it felt like it could happen to "you," whoever you might be -- the people targeted were folks who worked in office buildings, after all. And who did Hydra come within a heartbeat of killing? 20 million people. Sure, some high-profile types -- but the overwhelming majority were just regular, normal people, and they were on the largest hit list in history.
Finding out that a giant treasonous conspiracy within the government came this close to killing 20 million regular people (who could have included "you!"), while at the same time collapsing what just might be the most powerful and secure military organization on the planet, destroying their version of the Pentagon after holding an air battle over the skies of Washington.... I just do not buy that people would treat that as just another news item.
Now, yeah, ultimately I don't mind Daredevil not overtly referencing it, insofar as I feel like DD has such a different tone and style that a crossover feels incongruous, like doing a crossover between True Detective and Castle, or between The Sopranos and Law & Order. But I'd be lying if I said that the absence of any references to the Hydra uprising felt realistic to me.
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So that confirms: DD Season 1 starts after SHIELD Season 1 ends.
Would love to know what sort of "settlement" Cybertek undertook and with whom.
^Yeah, Hydra kidnapped the owner's wife as well as the people in the Incentives program and the owner built it from the ground up,not in Hydra's interests.
I missed that one (and in your first image). Thanks for sharing.
And fellas, can we ease up with the 9/11 examples. Some of us lost loved ones that day and it's a touching issue.
Really? That's weird.
Oh well, I'll just save it and link it from my Imgur account. How's this?
I missed that one (and in your first image). Thanks for sharing.
And fellas, can we ease up with the 9/11 examples. Some of us lost loved ones that day and it's a touching issue.
Season two to hit Netflix in three weeks on June 1.
Very nice. Season one didn't hit Netflix until after the home Blu-Ray/DVD release and the premiere of the second season
Very nice. Season one didn't hit Netflix until after the home Blu-Ray/DVD release and the premiere of the second season
Totally unexpected to be released to streaming so soon. The standard for all shows has been to wait a couple of months after the concluded season is out on DVD/blu-ray, before hitting the monthly subscription streaming services. I wondered if disc sales of season one were underwhelming, so instead of waiting, decided to add s2 into the rerun package, but I noticed Scandal- a higher rated show, is also having it's last season added in June as well.
No, disk sells were good. When I bought mine, AoS S1 was the #1 seller in action/adventure blu-rays.
Maybe the success of Daredevil has made Netflix want to add more Marvel streaming content sooner?
That doesn't say DVDs are selling well in an absolute sense, just that AoS is doing well among them in a relative sense.
That makes a bit more sense. Does anyone know what legal consequences there are in real life, if any, for someone who is coerced into committing serious crimes on pain of a loved one's death?
I sincerely apologize if I dragged up any painful memories. The intent was only to make a comparison to the reactions of general society to an analogous real-life event, nothing else. Apologies.
Well, extortion for starters. In addition, they're liable for whatever crimes are committed. RICO laws would probably apply too. It's serious criminal liability in addition to civil RICO, intentional infliction of emotional distress, unlawful imprisonment, assault, etc.
It would be a mitigating circumstance which both the political District Attorney will take into an account before charging and juries may take into an account before announcing a verdict and finally if convicted the Chief Executive may take into account when deciding upon clemency or a pardon.
I think Sci means penalties for the person who is recieving the "blackmail" for lack of a better term, the person who's family memeber is the incentive. The kidnapper of course would face many penalties but what about the person working, presumably unwilling, for the kidnappers.
I don't know, but I think there would have to be some kind of investigation to see how willing the person was to go along with the illegal activity. If they were truly unwilling or were they ok with it but the kidnapping got them moving in that direction.
I thought it was interesting when Jemma was in HYDRA and they were discussing some project that would kill lots of people and the other scientist that seemed sympathetic up to that point said basically it would be cool. I don't know if he was in the incentive program but I doubt it would make a big difference in that particular case.
I don't know, but I think there would have to be some kind of investigation to see how willing the person was to go along with the illegal activity. If they were truly unwilling or were they ok with it but the kidnapping got them moving in that direction.
I thought it was interesting when Jemma was in HYDRA and they were discussing some project that would kill lots of people and the other scientist that seemed sympathetic up to that point said basically it would be cool. I don't know if he was in the incentive program but I doubt it would make a big difference in that particular case.
I'd say there's pretty solid evidence for an "acting under duress" defence which should at least reduce any sentence, if not quash it altogether based on the circumstances.
Mind you "Cybertek Settles" could mean that their employees sued the corporation for exposing them to said duress and chose to settle out of court. Or it could be from an unrelated case that pre-dates the whole incident.
After all, Cybertek is a fictional corporation that that can just safely name drop like this in the same way they keep using Roxon.
Do you think Hydra has good work benefits? Does it offer Bonuses, 401k, Paid vacation? Does it offer Life Insurance? Imagine how high those premiums must be for payout of death because of work.
Well I think we're going on the assumption that Hydra didn't found or even own Cybertek but acquired a controlling interest through third parties, other fronts and various shell companies. Now that part of their infrastructure is smashed one assumes those stocks are null and void.
Sorry Sci, I misread the question.
Duress is a defense. A defense as to what is the question. Some jurisdictions go with a choice of evils analysis (so it isn't a defense to murder). Others make it a defense to everything. In all cases, it's narrowly construed. In many places, if there's any opportunity to call the cops or escape, that's the end of it.
Duress is a defense. A defense as to what is the question. Some jurisdictions go with a choice of evils analysis (so it isn't a defense to murder). Others make it a defense to everything. In all cases, it's narrowly construed. In many places, if there's any opportunity to call the cops or escape, that's the end of it.
In this instance though, it's not about the individual in question being under direct threat so much (though that was undoubtedly on the table) as it was a loved one (children in some cases) being held hostage under the threat of death.
In that scenario running or calling the police would not be a viable option.
Not sure if it would be an airtight defence for murder, but it might at least get a reduced sentence.
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