Agents of SHIELD - Season 2 Discussion Threads. (Spoilers Likely)
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No it doesn't.
With Inhumans it looks like it's pouring along the outside of the skin and drying out rapidly, still showing pink skin underneath as when Skye was turned, we saw it wrapping her face but leaving it intact.
Gonzales and Coulson, it was the same as any other human, like it was turning their tissue into dense ash, cracked and burned through.
And since the severed hand would leave a cross section for them to examine, if his hand had still been human underneath, they'd have known and it would have been a big deal.
It looked the same to me.
I had a silly thought, what if Coulson's hand isn't dead because of the terrigenisis? It could come back to haunt him!
Gives a whole new meaning to "His little pal Handy!"
And guys, stop picking on Kirk555555. He just doesn't like Mockingbird. There's no need to tell him he's wrong. We all disagree with him, but no need to be bitchy.
I had a silly thought, what if Coulson's hand isn't dead because of the terrigenisis? It could come back to haunt him!
Gives a whole new meaning to "His little pal Handy!"
And guys, stop picking on Kirk555555. He just doesn't like Mockingbird. There's no need to tell him he's wrong. We all disagree with him, but no need to be bitchy.
I'll keep an eye open the next time I rewatch those episodes but I couldn't tell the difference.
Eh, I know my opinions aren't anywhere near popular. I'm done arguing about Mockingbird anyway. I do still enjoy the show, and there are a bunch of cool things and good characters to watch on it. Mockingbird and Mac are just two bad spots on a good show, and its not that hard to get past them and enjoy the majority of the show.
I think that's a fair thing to say. I really liked Mockingbird when she showed up but after the whole real Shield thing I don't really have a strong favorable opinion. I like Mac, but same thing, and then he said he wanted to leave, which made me like him less, but I liked how he took on Gordo and helped Skye so and now he's staying so I'm ok with him.
I really thought it was funny the way that guy at the end answered Ward. "Hail Hydra to that!" Sounds like a bunch of skinheads which brings us back to Nazis, doesn't it.
I really thought it was funny the way that guy at the end answered Ward. "Hail Hydra to that!" Sounds like a bunch of skinheads which brings us back to Nazis, doesn't it.
I like that Mac has been consistently portrayed, even before the turn. Going back and watching early season 2 and there's a ton of comments and foreshadowing his general view of alien influence, of Coulson's methods, of all of it.
Him choosing to walk away made sense as did him eventually choosing to stick around after all.
I think it's meant to show just what Hydra has been reduced to after Coulson's team and the Avengers dismantled 99% of the operation but all I can think of is: "who recruited *those* muppets?"
I get why *they* would want to be in Hydra, I just don't see how (prior to this point) Hydra would have any use for what looks like a bunch of lowlife neo-Nazi wannabe bikers.
When a human touches diviner metal their flesh straight up turns to stone. When an Inhuman is first exposed to the mist, it sort of condenses and congeals around them in a viscus black fluid that envelops their body before hardening like a chrysalis. It's only once the change is complete that it become brittle and cracks like stone. The key difference is that the mist creates a coating. The flesh is covered by it, not turned to stone.
...which as I'm typing just made be realise it's actually very similar to the fluid state of whatever it was that grabbed Simmons. The human-to-inhuman DNA recombination idea just got a tad more plausible.
Anyway, the fact that anything at all happened to Coulson when the touched the tainted crystal proves that he's not been changed by the GH formula because if it did, he would have had no reaction at all. Inhumans can touch the diviners without any ill effects. For them it's the mist that causes a reaction.
Well assuming they don't have something in reserve for Civil War.
I really enjoyed this season from beginning to end. One of the most amazing things about the writing is Ward. Remember many of us complained about how bland he was back at the beginning of the show in 2013? Now, for me, he has become a truly compelling character and great nemesis for our heroes.
Still think he's bland. As compelling antagonists go, he's a Lilliputian compared to Cal.
I agree with theenglish, the current Ward is several steps up from Shield Ward. At first he had a stick up his but and now he's damaged goods with spy training and a Hydra army. Things should be interesting next season.
Now that I think of it, Ward's damaged goods, May has damaging baggage, Fitz is mentally damaged, Skye causes damages, and Coulson is physically damaged. I wonder how they'll damage Simmons next season.
Now that I think of it, Ward's damaged goods, May has damaging baggage, Fitz is mentally damaged, Skye causes damages, and Coulson is physically damaged. I wonder how they'll damage Simmons next season.
That's the thing, though. We were supposed to think that Ward was just another bland action protagonist; he was the only member of the cast who fit the standard mold, a young and athletic white male with nothing particularly distinctive about him, so he was the one we'd naturally expect to be the primary hero of the show. Quite a lot of the time, after all, the lead character in a TV or film ensemble is a relatively bland white male, and only the supporting characters get to be diverse or complex or played by really good actors. But that was all part of the show's long con and its subversion of our expectations: The one who fit the conventional "hero" mold turned out to be the villain. Which fits right into Whedon's career-long deconstruction of conventional ideas of heroism and villainy.
Maybe next season they'll further subvert our expectations and reveal that Ward's secretly been interesting all along....
Yeah. Granted that Hydra's been dealt some really hard blows, but I don't buy that a conspiracy as powerful and penetrating so deep into the U.S. government as it did in CA:TWS could be so quickly and thoroughly defeated.
Well, I was thinking more along the lines of it just protecting him, but that's true-- it may have been the beginning of a change.
I'm too anxious to wait, most of the time. And knowing doesn't really ruin my enjoyment of something. If I like it, I watch it again and again.
Indeed. Casablanca always ends the same way every time I watch it.
Yeah, we only saw Terrigensis once, but it definitely looked different. It's why it's clear Coulson actually doesn't have Inhuman genes and the Kree formula didn't change that (as many speculated it had).
Yeah, I'm wondering about Crossbones and Helmut Zemo. Still, that's a year away. Plenty of time for Ward's team to be on their own before they get surpassed (and the show has plenty of time to integrate them into the "real Hydra.").
Yeah, I'll agree with that. He was essentially Tom Cruise's character in Mission Impossible without the benefit of being Tom Cruise.
That being said, iirc, they planned out the pilot before they saw the script to The Winter Soldier. I wonder if they had other plans for Ward before they realized this was clearly the better option.
It's funny, because Ward is pretty much in the same situation with HYDRA as Coulson was with Shield at the end of season 1. Nice reversal there. 
Well it's been over a year in-universe from the fall of SHIELD to the defeat of Strucker. I'd hardly call that "quickly".
But sure, they have yet to trot out the likes of Madame Hydra, Zemo, Zola with his trademark android body and of course Red Skull is still probably out there too. I don't doubt Hydra will return, but as far as AoS is concerned, Hydra is essentially down to the last dregs for the foreseeable future.
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