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Agents of SHIELD - Season 2 Discussion Threads. (Spoilers Likely)

They're still laying it on a bit thick. This is a world where they sell action figures of the Hulk...but a girl starts a few minor earthquakes and everyone's like "FREAK! SHE MUST BE DESTROYED!"
 
PETE IS CAPTAIN MARVEL!!!!

Oh.

no, he isn't. :(

If Bobbie and Mac were SKrulls, they couldn't recruit humans into their cabal and they would have had more effective tactics to fight a Kree Soldier head on.
 
They're still laying it on a bit thick. This is a world where they sell action figures of the Hulk...but a girl starts a few minor earthquakes and everyone's like "FREAK! SHE MUST BE DESTROYED!"

Waitasec. It was the only Kree dude calling for that. The Team was protecting Skye, and Sif only wanted to take her to Asgard. Right?
 
Is there Netflix in Asgard?

(This is a very simplistic and half remembered retelling of events, so apologies for anything I might have made up by accident.)

After the great War, German government was decided by MMP. The manner in which the votes were cast (party vote + representative vote = 2 votes per person.) caused for several minor parties to become usable wedges of power. The many parities holding government seats then talked about teaming up into coalitions until a majority could be put together. The Conceivable majorities by Germany's traditional leadership formed were weak because the Nazi's and Communists together held %50 percent of the Reichstag since the Depression really sunk it's teeth in.

So in 1933 the Usual suspects drew lines, each almost claiming that they were the government because the division of power between them was so thin, that whosoever the tiny, niche Nazi party (less than %30.) sided with would rule German for the next 3 to 4 years.

Hitler had to be bought, and he was bought well. He was the third most powerful person in the majority coalition government on day one, and then he pushed and schemed and lied, and probably murdered (This sounds very House of Cards.) a couple people, so that before the Next election, Hitler was completely in charge, and it was decided that elections were not entirely necessary any more.

It wasn't Dolph's electability by a rotten and evil German public giving into hate that got him to the top, sure that snuck the short #### in the door by a whisker, but it was his diplomacy, will, personality and wit, that created situation after situation where he rose while others fell, but yes, all that Racism, and "appropriating" wealth from undesirables and the conquered, is how he stayed in power once he got there by making the middle class and the Ultra rich very, very comfortable.
 
They're still laying it on a bit thick. This is a world where they sell action figures of the Hulk...but a girl starts a few minor earthquakes and everyone's like "FREAK! SHE MUST BE DESTROYED!"

Waitasec. It was the only Kree dude calling for that. The Team was protecting Skye, and Sif only wanted to take her to Asgard. Right?

Mac said at the end that instead of protecting Skye, they should be protecting themselves.

That being said, we don't know how he feels about the Hulk either, so it's disingenuous to suggest he's being hypocritical.
 
I really think that Asgard is more of a problem and that's because Thor can order the Invasion of Russia (On humanitarian grounds) if he feels like it, which is more about being first in line for the throne to a condescending super power than his actual super powers.
 
Am I the only one wondering how the Kree got to Earth in the first place? I mean he defiantly didn't get there by bifrost right? So does that mean there's a Kree ship out there somewhere with the keys still in the ignition?
 
They're still laying it on a bit thick. This is a world where they sell action figures of the Hulk...but a girl starts a few minor earthquakes and everyone's like "FREAK! SHE MUST BE DESTROYED!"

Waitasec. It was the only Kree dude calling for that. The Team was protecting Skye, and Sif only wanted to take her to Asgard. Right?

Mac said at the end that instead of protecting Skye, they should be protecting themselves.

That being said, we don't know how he feels about the Hulk either, so it's disingenuous to suggest he's being hypocritical.

That's true, he said that, and the three new team members (Bobbi, Lance, and Mack) were in agreement that Skye needed to be handled. I was mainly just saying that they never agreed that she needed to be destroyed, and they all fought the Kree dude to stop him from destroying her.
 
Am I the only one wondering how the Kree got to Earth in the first place? I mean he defiantly didn't get there by bifrost right? So does that mean there's a Kree ship out there somewhere with the keys still in the ignition?

Hala is a planet in our Universe... in the MCU.

Asgard's 9 realms are parallel Universes or different dimensions to the MCU, depending on who you ask. The Dark Elf trying to destroy all nine realms simultaneously does kinda imply that the nine realms are interlocked and connected whether they are layer caked universes or different dimensional aspects of the same universe.

It's possible that the Kree have translocation technology similar to the Bifrost that works in just the one universe/dimension and not all nine.

But yes, it is as possible that Pete had a ship.

More developed worlds probably have shields that make unpermitted (passports and visas, y'know?) translocation impossible or difficult.

Pete didn't need a ship becuase Earth is too backward to stop him from beaming in.
 
Waitasec. It was the only Kree dude calling for that. The Team was protecting Skye, and Sif only wanted to take her to Asgard. Right?

Mac said at the end that instead of protecting Skye, they should be protecting themselves.

That being said, we don't know how he feels about the Hulk either, so it's disingenuous to suggest he's being hypocritical.

That's true, he said that, and the three new team members (Bobbi, Lance, and Mack) were in agreement that Skye needed to be handled. I was mainly just saying that they never agreed that she needed to be destroyed, and they all fought the Kree dude to stop him from destroying her.

Hyperbole, dude, hyperbole....
 
Am I the only one wondering how the Kree got to Earth in the first place? I mean he defiantly didn't get there by bifrost right? So does that mean there's a Kree ship out there somewhere with the keys still in the ignition?

Hala is a planet in our Universe... in the MCU.

Asgard's 9 realms are parallel Universes or different dimensions to the MCU, depending on who you ask. The Dark Elf trying to destroy all nine realms simultaneously does kinda imply that the nine realms are interlocked and connected whether they are layer caked universes or different dimensional aspects of the same universe.

It's possible that the Kree have translocation technology similar to the Bifrost that works in just the one universe/dimension and not all nine.

But yes, it is as possible that Pete had a ship.

More developed worlds probably have shields that make unpermitted (passports and visas, y'know?) translocation impossible or difficult.

Pete didn't need a ship becuase Earth is too backward to stop him from beaming in.

It's a discussion that's been had before, but I'm still of the opinion that in the MCU at least, all nine "realms" are in the same universe, just each is very VERY VERY far away from the others. Like out beyond the virgo supercluster, maybe passed the edge of the observable universe far. I think there's plenty of evidence to back that up and not a lot to the contrary.

Anyway, as for Vin-Tak; just going by GotG it doesn't seem likely that the Kree have anything like Asgard's wormhole technology. Indeed it seems nobody else that we've seen so far does. A ship would be the most likely method, but I suppose it's possible he was dropped off and expected to be picked up again later...or it was still on Earth but Heimdall grabbed it.
 
Mac said at the end that instead of protecting Skye, they should be protecting themselves.

That being said, we don't know how he feels about the Hulk either, so it's disingenuous to suggest he's being hypocritical.

That's true, he said that, and the three new team members (Bobbi, Lance, and Mack) were in agreement that Skye needed to be handled. I was mainly just saying that they never agreed that she needed to be destroyed, and they all fought the Kree dude to stop him from destroying her.

Hyperbole, dude, hyperbole....

Hang on (again). From all that exchange, Alidar Jarok made a really good point. It wasn't the first season team members who were freaking out over Skye, it was the second season additions. Jemma seemed pretty cool in the end about it and more concerned about losing trust with Fitz.

Applying it to all three newcomers, AJ's point is that, for all we know, there's nothing hypocritical in their stance. This could actually be quite revealing about whatever infiltration Bobbi and Mack are up to. Maybe they have an anti-Avenger agenda.
 
That was a cool episode, but I feel like it totally blows the mystery and mystique of the Kree in the show. After showing a mysterious corpse and establishing the ancient creation of the Inhumans... we meet a Kree... and... he's a normal white guy in a jacket just doing a job. :wtf: It just really screamed tv budget. Also, they blew the Skye reveal just one episode later? I thought they would drag that out longer.
 
Favorite line...

Coulson: "How did you subdue her?"
Portugese Police Chief: "I told her I knew who Kaka (whetever) was, and I would bring him to her."
Coulson: "But I'm not Kaka."
Chief: "And I am very happy that I am not the one who has to tell her that."

:lol:
 
Maybe Sif Found the ship first, destroyed it, and then tracked down the pilot who gave her amnesia?

Also possible. Honestly, I'm mostly trying to figure out the extent of Heimdall's sight. I mean he can spot Jane Foster from the far side of the universe, on a planet of seven billion other humans, but not the one lone Kree?

Small point, but I just wanted to check that we all got the implication when Sif said "Odin" sent her to "retrieve" the Kree. Is Loki just keeping up appearances and doing what Odin would, or dose he have an ulterior motive (because when does he not?) Is it possible he already knew about the new Inhumans and wants them instead?
 
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