Supernatural: Season 10 (Spoilers!)

[eyeresist]

I enjoyed this episode. It shows that they are still capable of doing a good standalone ep, and I appreciate the return to old school monster movie Supernatural, i.e. the first two seasons. The writing and directing were much more effective that most of what we've seen this season, and I liked the mix of horror and humour which used to be this show's "thing". The brother moment at the end was lovely!

I do think this ep was in part a response to criticisms of the season so far, and this seems to be their effort to get past Dean's grumpy angst and make him more likable, hence the huge amount of Dean humour here. I do think we could have done with fewer shots of Dean ogling the female students...
Maybe Dean's likability has been more of an issue in the teenybopper forums? (It's not like the producers would be reading this thread.) I really hope the showrunners are also aware of the show's current lack of coherence and dramatic interest, and are in the process of fixing that too. Next episode is make or break, guys!

 

[JD]

I thought last week's was a fun stand alone.

 

[auntiehill]

OK, so the big fight happened....and now what? What does it all mean?

And, another important question, why doesn't Crowley just kill his mum? She really needs to go.

March 18th? We have to wait until March 18th? Son of a bitch!

 

[Gryffindorian]

OK, so Dean killed Cain, but what has that accomplished? It looks like Dean still has the mark; all they've done is put an end to Cain's killing spree.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Dean Cain... I can't believe I've never noticed how... super... those names go together.

 

[JD]

Yeah, the aftermath of Cain's death was rather anticlimatic. They built to it for a while, so I was hoping there would be more to it.
So are the Winchesters part of Cain's bloodline? That was the impression I got from Dean's conversation with Cain. I guess Cain is probably old enough that a good portion of people would be a part of his bloodline.
I missed the conversation between Crowley and his mom before he went off to help the Winchesters? What did she tell him she wants to do?
I'm curious if we're going to see Crowley turn on the brothers now?
Despite my issues with the ending, I still enjoyed this one.

 

[auntiehill]

^Mom wants help in getting rid of a certain witch from the coven that is after her.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

What exactly was Supernatural's stance on the biblical creation story?
Does the show consider Adam and Eve the actual origin of humanity roughly 6000-10000 years ago?
Cause that would make it impossible for Cain not to be the ancestor of every single human alive.

Adam and Eve would had to have started at least 10 different bloodlines and Cain's descendents would never ever interbreed with any of the others and yet still end up with 800,000,000 of them running around today for his estimation to be true, right?

I find that highly improbable.

And then, how many people did Cain kill on average? One per day? Maybe two or three? How long was this genocide gonna take?
I think his descendents would outbreed his kill rate by sooooo many factors!


And in no way am I overthinking this!

 

[JD]

I don't remember them ever addressing any more than Cain.

 

[eyeresist]

Regarding the descent of humans from Adam and Eve etc., it's implied in Genesis that there were other people around at the time as well. Cain, after being cast out, worried about being killed as a vagabond, an odd worry if the only other people in the world were Adam and Eve (Abel having been killed). People (inc. Cain) got wives whose origins were not specified. Cain went to the land of Nod, had a child by his wife, and built the city of Enoch, a rather futile effort if the population of Nod consisted of three people.

 

[Tzenkethi]

Genesis 1 God creates man and woman, Genesis 2, God creates Adam and Eve. According the Supernatural wiki there's a little play on that with the man and woman being the 'old ones'/Leviathan and Eve from season 6 and 7, maybe Adam and Eve were just the first homo sapien sapiens given souls or something.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

OK, so the big fight happened....and now what? What does it all mean?

And, another important question, why doesn't Crowley just kill his mum? She really needs to go.

March 18th? We have to wait until March 18th? Son of a bitch!

I second all of this. I'm getting a tad annoyed at the shenanigans.

 

[Kelthaz]

This show does have a knack for making a meandering plot and anticlimatic resolutions feel exciting. The episode itself was entertaining enough, but where does this leave us? The search for Cain has resulted in nothing and we're back to square one. At worst Dean's fight with Cain will make the mark stronger and he might turn into a demon again. The biggest threat in the show right now is that we end up back where we were at the end of the previous season. 14 episodes and not only has the show made no progress in its current arc, but it has actually regressed to the previous season's arc.

This entire season is such a waste.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

I feel so cheated. I want Dean to go back being a demon. That shit was awesome.

 

[JD]

While I have been enjoying the episodes, thinking back over the arc, they really haven't done much to move it forward. There were several times where it seemed like we were leading up to a big development, but then like the fight with Cain, they ended up going nowhere. I like to give the producers/writers the benefit of the doubt in these situations, but it would be nice if they gave us a clearer picture of where things were going.
I think we've almost gotten more movement on Rowena's storyline in the handful of episodes she's been in, than we have in Dean's Mark of Cain storyline over the whole season.

 

[Guy Gardener]

God created millions of animals, billions of insects, trillions of fish and an infinite amount of stars, but he only made one man (and a woman days later who he needed parts from Adam to complete.).

God obviously kept making men, or even made millions of men at almost the same time as he made Adam just like he made millions of trout when he made the first trout, which makes the tracking of bloodlines in the bible seem quite half arsed.

Hmmm?

Does this mean that there were many Gardens like Eden housing small sets of humans simultaneously?

Or does it mean that After Adam and Eve were evicted, that God put new humans into Eden who were also evicted, and so on and so on, and so on, yet more replacement humans like God was playing in God Mode and had infinite spawns. God is a shit land lord who can't create an executable set of rules that human beings can tolerate?

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Doesn't matter, if the global floodstory still holds true in the SNL universe, because that bottlenecked the entire population down to a single incest happy family again.
Thinking about that, that means at least one of Cain's murderous decendents was on that boat of god's favorite good people?

Probably better to discount the flood myth for SNL lore then.

 

[eyeresist]

God didn't worry about continuity problems, as the internet did not exist in those days.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

God agrees with Shakespeare: you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Doesn't matter, if the global floodstory still holds true in the SNL universe,

What's Saturday Night Live got to do with this?