Star Trek: Axanar

[137th Gebirg]

Me too. I'm a little confused about two things, though:

1. I read they wanted a budget of $650k, but the kickstarter is only targeting $100k. They said: "This first Kickstarter will be for the sound stage and set construction." So, I don't really understand how this is going to work. If stage two fails to meet its kickstarter budget, do the people from phase one get refunded? I'm going to assume not, but what will the rewards for the second round be? Like, if I'm already owed a copy of the film, what's the incentive to kickstart round two?

2. Will the full film be in the same 'style' as the Prelude to Axanar? Like, is the entire kickstarted film going to be talking heads and graphics, or are they actually shooting, like, scenes with actors interacting and doing stuff and shouting orders on bridges with exploding consoles and such?

Also, Prelude was budgeted at $10,000 and they ended up getting $100,000. Does that money roll over into Axanar? If not, where does it go?

The extra rolled over to Axanar to help with makeup costs and more special effects. Those are costly. That way they can have more Klingons and the like ready in advance.

Yes, I'm pretty sure none of the money was wasted. I'm also pretty sure that the excessively favorable response they've received to this effort in the form of such a revenue surplus has added to their own motivation to do a good job of it. If the final product is near as good as the recent shorts, it is likely to be hailed as the greatest fan film ever made and set a new gold standard for the rest to follow. They've set a rather high bar for themselves as well based on the quality of the trailers. I hope they can live up to it.

 

[Ithekro]

The Kickstarter is now over $401,000 with two days left to go.

Some people really want this made, as they've had at least two donors that have given $10,000 each in a day. As of now there are 5199 backers.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Damn! I wonder if Paramount is taking notice of this...

 

[Ronald Held]

Should they? As long as Axanar makes no profit is it worth the effort?

 

[Noname Given]

Well, took the plunge and pledged $75.00 to the KS project last night (a Blu-Ray of the finished project is a nice 'thank you' IMO.)

I hope they get the funding they need to do the final feature film.

 

[Kruezerman]

I'm so excited! The fans really pulled through!

 

[137th Gebirg]

Should they? As long as Axanar makes no profit is it worth the effort?

I'm not talking about litigation - I'm talking about them taking notice of the fact that the fandom is generating enough money to allow something of this scope to be built in the prime universe. And that there may yet still be money to be made there.

You're probably right - they likely won't care, but a raised eyebrow might just be enough...

 

[Kruezerman]

I'm not talking about litigation - I'm talking about them taking notice of the fact that the fandom is generating enough money to allow something of this scope to be built in the prime universe. And that there may yet still be money to be made there.

I think it'd be more along the lines that they'll add this into the NuUniverse, maybe cameos or a couple of lines, hell if XIII is going to be about the Klingons, then this fanfilm would be perfect to act as a sort of preview.

 

[BeatleJWOL]

Some people online seem almost eager to see CBS come along and pull the plug on this...

If it does attract corporate attention, I hope it's the good "ooh we can squeeze this lemon too" kind.

 

[137th Gebirg]

^^^ Agreed. I definitely don't want to see this die. It's too good. I think some of the haters might be coming from some if the "rival" fan film productions that don't like being shown how to do a real production. Their loss. They can learn a few things from this one but their egos likely won't allow it.

 

[Kruezerman]

Axanar's producer talks to TrekMovie.
http://trekmovie.com/2014/08/22/exc...trek-axanar-as-it-passes-400k-on-kickstarter/

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Some people online seem almost eager to see CBS come along and pull the plug on this...

If it does attract corporate attention, I hope it's the good "ooh we can squeeze this lemon too" kind.

^^^ Agreed. I definitely don't want to see this die. It's too good. I think some of the haters might be coming from some if the "rival" fan film productions that don't like being shown how to do a real production. Their loss. They can learn a few things from this one but their egos likely won't allow it.

I can't help but wonder if some of it might be TOS purists who are freaking out about the fact that the film looks like its hybridizing stuff from TOS and the JJverse.

 

[Warped9]

I can't help but wonder if some of it might be TOS purists who are freaking out about the fact that the film looks like its hybridizing stuff from TOS and the JJverse.

From a story standpoint this shouldn't have anything to do with JJtrek since that's an alternate continuity, universe or whatever. That said, and even though I could quibble with some of the aesthetic choices seen in the trailer, I'm intrigued with this overall and as a story and I'm looking forward to seeing the final result.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

I can't help but wonder if some of it might be TOS purists who are freaking out about the fact that the film looks like its hybridizing stuff from TOS and the JJverse.

From a story standpoint this shouldn't have anything to do with JJtrek since that's an alternate continuity, universe or whatever.

Except for the parts that came from the Prime Universe as they existed BEFORE Nero showed up.

i.e. The Kelvin design and new stardate system.

 

[Warped9]

I can't help but wonder if some of it might be TOS purists who are freaking out about the fact that the film looks like its hybridizing stuff from TOS and the JJverse.

From a story standpoint this shouldn't have anything to do with JJtrek since that's an alternate continuity, universe or whatever.

Except for the parts that came from the Prime Universe as they existed BEFORE Nero showed up.

i.e. The Kelvin design and new stardate system.

I am not getting into another argument about those fucking films again.

I'll look at Axanar on its own merits.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I can't help but wonder if some of it might be TOS purists who are freaking out about the fact that the film looks like its hybridizing stuff from TOS and the JJverse.

Yes there are. One guy in particular on Facebook was seriously affronted that they dare draw on the new movies in any way, shape or form - saying it's inclusion set a bad precedent for fans embracing Abrams-related stuff.

The Axanar people have told me on FB that they're not fans of the new movies (in particular ID), if that helps anyone "deal" with it. Honestly, with the ships, the quick glimpse of a yellow nuTrek uniform, the stardates and the Vengeance crash tribute, I thought they must have been huge fans!

 

[BigJake]

Don't suppose they have to be fans on the whole to find some elements of them worth drawing on. Doesn't seem like a big deal.

(EDIT: Also, I somehow doubt any great amount of the static is coming from "TOS purists," but let's not get too far down that road.)

 

[Kruezerman]

Doesn't seem like a big deal.

We just finished (I hope) a mulit-page argument over the use of the word "bitch."

It seems like the one thing we can agree on is making a big deal.

 

[BigJake]

Some people online seem almost eager to see CBS come along and pull the plug on this...

It would've surely happened by now if it was going to happen. I see no reason to disbelieve Alec when he says that CBS have approved it so long as it stays non-commercial.

(As I've said elsewhere, it's a pretty sweet deal for CBS, really. The Axanar team are essentially market-testing -- in a way -- new small-screen Trek for them without CBS having to spend a dime.)

 

[BillJ]

(As I've said elsewhere, it's a pretty sweet deal for CBS, really. The Axanar team are essentially market-testing -- in a way -- new small-screen Trek for them without CBS having to spend a dime.)

How so? The logistics and rules of making a TV series would be totally different than making a fan film. A one-off fan film won't look anything like a regular TV series, won't have the same time pressures.