Your opinions on "New Voyages?"
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Good Will Riker
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I am a fan of Sly Stallone (Take a good look at who is standing next to Bill Shatner in my avatar.
) for Rocky I, II, III, IV, & Balboa as well as First Blood. I even Netflixed a copy of his 1978 film F.I.S.T. which is in my hands right now. I even rented Party at Kitty and Studs, Spy Kids 3-D: Game Over, and Paradise Alley. I have Shade in my queue as we speak.But Rocky V was simply awful. The lowest point in that franchise. The writer, the director, the studio, the moon, and the stars were seriously mis-aligned when they decided to make that film. An unnecessary sequel. Thank Stallone for getting the franchise back on track with Rocky Balboa.
Good Will Riker
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Personally, he makes a way better stand up comedian. At least he's not "self-conscious" when he's performing up there roasting The Shat or Tim Hardaway!
They are tolerated by Paramount/CBS in the same way that not-for-profit ST print fanzines have always been tolerated - and even embraced in the media packs for each new ST movie and TV series. Not-for-profit fan-generated material keeps the ST flame alive when there's not enough official product coming out.
Good Will Riker said:
I am a fan of Sly Stallone (Take a good look at who is standing next to Bill Shatner in my avatar.
But Rocky V was simply awful. The lowest point in that franchise. The writer, the director, the studio, the moon, and the stars were seriously mis-aligned when they decided to make that film. An unnecessary sequel. Thank Stallone for getting the franchise back on track with Rocky Balboa.
This is off topic but since you've confessed to being a Stallone fan perhaps you can tell me the name of the film where he plays a corrupt cop with extreme methods similar too but more violent than Dirty Harry?
Maybe I'm just a huge Classic Trek fan, but I enjoy all the fan films I've seen so far. Granted that they're not at the technical or story level of the big P (yet), but I still get a kick out of seeing new adventures of the Enterprise crew, whether in fan films, comics or whatever.
That said, I also like what I've seen from Starship Exeter (which is unfortunately moving ahead on impulse power rather than warp speed) and the Starship Farragut crew, which released their first episode last February and looks to have a second one ready come October.
And yeah, I'm also hoping Of Gods and Men (or as I call it, "It's a Wonderful Trek") comes out soon.
The more, the merrier, I say. :thumbsup:
That said, I also like what I've seen from Starship Exeter (which is unfortunately moving ahead on impulse power rather than warp speed) and the Starship Farragut crew, which released their first episode last February and looks to have a second one ready come October.
And yeah, I'm also hoping Of Gods and Men (or as I call it, "It's a Wonderful Trek") comes out soon.
The more, the merrier, I say. :thumbsup:
I know this has been addressed, but seriously...
All you had to do was to check the New Voyages website to know they had been given Paramounts blessing ages ago.
At any rate...regardless of whether or not they broke copyright law, I would have downloaded them anyway.
number6
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I prefer Starship Exeter for the fact that they are telling fresh stories set on a different ship. New Voyages has improved greatly, but I feel they rely so heavily on stunt casting that it's hard to see them do something fresh on their own without it.
It's always a treat to see the TOS bridge recreated, but some of the SFX in the earlier episodes are B5 bad.
It's always a treat to see the TOS bridge recreated, but some of the SFX in the earlier episodes are B5 bad.
Good Will Riker
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Marion Cobretti a.k.a. "Cobra" (1986) directed by George P. Cosmatos (who also "ghost directed" Rambo: First Blood, Part II for Sly)
I also think their stories would be more effective if they centered around an original ship and characters. The performances of the leads tends to be little more than imitation. And Shatner never leaned on his stock mannarisms as much as James Cawley. I've rarely seem a performer move his facial muscles as much. It's almost impossible not to compare them with the original cast. Andy Bray was the only one to truly become his character and pretty much blew away even the celebrity guests.
Having said it, it's really cool to see these episodes being made. A nice what if? sort of thing. You notice that in some way each episode revolves around some kind of bending of time. The first one had "flash forwards", the second was one big time travel romp, the third had Chekov prematurely aging and the next one has barbarian Sulu from the future.
I'd love to say I like Exeter as much or more, but they only have 1.3 episodes in the can. It's hard to say.
Having said it, it's really cool to see these episodes being made. A nice what if? sort of thing. You notice that in some way each episode revolves around some kind of bending of time. The first one had "flash forwards", the second was one big time travel romp, the third had Chekov prematurely aging and the next one has barbarian Sulu from the future.
I'd love to say I like Exeter as much or more, but they only have 1.3 episodes in the can. It's hard to say.
Cosmatos is the credited director on Rambo: First Blood Part II.
New Voyages is fun, but I had an issue with "To Serve All My Days". While both Chekov performances were really good, that story seemed to have nothing to do with the rest of the episode. The Chekov stuff felt tacked on. Still, it's really wonderful what these people are able to achieve.
Neil
Agreed on Bray. Very good acting! I really liked To Serve All My Days; I think it's a good episode by the standard of any Trek series, let alone fan-made. (Of course, it had an original Trek writer and an original Trek actor; so it's not quite "just" a fan-made episode.)
Re: Exeter being perhaps better, I like the concept of a separate ship with different crew better; but the 1.3 episodes haven't shown better stories or acting (overall) yet. I did think some of the acting isn't bad on Exeter, but the same is true for some of the acting on the first 1.3 NV episodes.
Like some others who've posted, I enjoy the fan films for what they are. The campy special effects seen in the first 2 NV's are quite silly and do detract a bit, but I still enjoyed them for what they were. (Even the last NV had more movie-era special effects. Exeter does a better job of matching TOS-era effects.)
I haven't seen Farragut, yet. I need to check it out.
Seems like it's time for another shameless plug for the Fan Films forum. While it's true that fan films are based in all of the various eras, the TOS one seems to be most prevalent.
C'mon over and start a thread or ask one of the production folks for any series a question. Offer up some praise or some criticism, but I think a lot of you are missing an opportunity here. Fan Films is a cool place.
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C'mon over and start a thread or ask one of the production folks for any series a question. Offer up some praise or some criticism, but I think a lot of you are missing an opportunity here. Fan Films is a cool place.
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I was very impressed by New Voyages, and I really enjoyed watching what they've done so far. I wasn't such a fan of the stunt casting and necessary contrivances with Walter Koenig for To Serve all my Days, but I enjoyed their own stuff quite a bit. I'm particularly looking forward to their take on Blood and Fire.
I'm not often a particular watcher of fan films, Hidden Frontier in particular really does my head in, but New Voyages has an air of pseudo professionalism I think serves it well. I'm certainly not viewing them in comparison to the latest thing coming out of Hollywood (and the idea that they will hurt the revenue of the new film is ludicrous), but they're at the very least interesting and enjoyable.
I'm not often a particular watcher of fan films, Hidden Frontier in particular really does my head in, but New Voyages has an air of pseudo professionalism I think serves it well. I'm certainly not viewing them in comparison to the latest thing coming out of Hollywood (and the idea that they will hurt the revenue of the new film is ludicrous), but they're at the very least interesting and enjoyable.
Pocket Books have never been concerned that amateur fanzines stopped people buying licensed ST novels, either, even now that amateur stories can be uploaded and downloaded for no cost to the reader.
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