Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by JonnyQuest037, Jan 30, 2019.
Or your throw them at your friend's back.
When you see something that doesn't even look real and you instantly feel sadness because of the death of Sam Kirk.
This was a true story for me, btw, I saw a fruitcake last December and it had a really weird plasticy sheen and I started to say "it doesn't even look real" but I never got it all out.
I'm glad someone felt sadness for his death, and maybe someone will feel sadness for his poor wife, too. Or the poor orphaned nephew?
My understanding is there is three orphans, but Peter was the youngest, the other two were elsewhere. I don't remember where I heard Sam had three sons, and a strange man named Bub.
Bub was the boy's maternal grandfather from Sam's first wife who also died. Bub got too sick help raise the boys, and was put in a nursing home. It's a good thing his brother, Charles was able to move in and help out. Then things started to look up when Sam married Aurelan. Sad end to a wonderful family.
I think Kirk's Father and Mother are still alive to raise Peter. Poor Peter.
I thought it odd when Kirk (in the movies) mentioned that his brother had died, but that he got him back again! Obviously he was commenting on Spock rather than Sam!
Kirk's deceased brother was airbrushed from his mind in an instant, and that quote from the movie has never sat well with me.
Did the writers forget he had a real brother who was killed ?
Did Shatner not think to himself when he saw that line, "Hey that's a bit misleading"
The movies are kind of their own thing.
I thought of Sam, too, but you have to let him finish the line before you jump to conclusions.
Yes. ...I lost a brother once. But I was lucky, I got him back.
He was trying to reassure Spock who was just thinking of his brother Sybok who just, presumably, died.
And in Whom Gods Destroy,
KIRK: They were humanitarians and statesmen, and they had a dream. A dream that became a reality and spread throughout the stars, a dream that made Mister Spock and me brothers.
GARTH: Mister Spock, do you consider Captain Kirk and yourself brothers?
SPOCK: Captain Kirk speaks somewhat figuratively and with undue emotion. However, what he says is logical and I do, in fact, agree with it.
So, there's reason for it, just because we jumped to conclusions doesn't mean it's wrong.
I doubt that Shatner thought much about it, if he even remembered that Kirk's brother was killed in a TOS episode. He hasn't been rewatching them for decades the way we have.
And it's understandable that they didn't bother bringing up Kirk's brother in that scene. It's the same reason why Admiral Morrow said that the Enterprise was 20 years old in STIII. Why risk confusing casual fans?
Remember Shatner's skit on SNL? Get a life! We fans remember a lot more about what was said on individual episodes of TOS than Shatner does.
And to answer the OP...
When you make your spouse/kids/family/friends/employees stand and give you the ISS Enterprise salute every time you enter the room.
Kras gave a similar salute in Friday's Child! And although Mirror was shown first, Friday was filmed before Mirror!
Mine looks like the interiors from "Miri", only messier.
I'm not going to run my life on the premise of an SNL skit.
I'm going to run it on the premise of a fictional TV show instead.
I think we learned a lot more from watching Trek than we ever did in High school to be honest!
If you ever opened a bag of Bugles, picked one out, and had the Doomsday Machine Planet Killer musical cue run through your brain.
Yeah, and it wasn't just the show itself, although Spock alone exploded my childhood vocabulary. It was the things you'd pick up from following the cast. For instance, Leonard Nimoy did a TV movie called Seizure: The Story of Kathy Morris (1980), so naturally I not only had to see it, I had to read the book it was based on. It was a memoir by (or about? I can't remember now) a neurosurgeon, and the things I got out of it added to my schoolboy reputation for knowing so much.
You know you're a Star Trek fan if people try to tell you that the Doomsday Machine was a windsock dipped in concrete and you tell them that , no, it was a metal frame wrapped in aluminum foil further wrapped in lighting gels. That's what gave it its strange alien-like qualities that the remastered versions failed to capture. Then you take a breath and realize that if you know what lighting gels are your probably a Star Trek fan.
That reminds me:
"You know you're a TOS fan IF you saw the William Shatner "Get a Life!" SNL sketch and thought: "So...where's the joke? I've been to Conventions and have seen actual fan/guest situations play out exactly like that..."
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