X-Men: Days of Future Past - Discussion Thread - SPOILERS
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Hours + defibrillation I would believe.
But he came out and up choking and pissed and significantly "alive".
It's not that he was alive, but he hadn't even passed out from lack of oxygen or hitting the water from however high Magneto threw him.
Nimrod.
But he came out and up choking and pissed and significantly "alive".
It's not that he was alive, but he hadn't even passed out from lack of oxygen or hitting the water from however high Magneto threw him.
Nimrod.
He didnt survive for hours he drown in the river. They dont need a defibrillator to revive him his body does it automatically he probably drown and revived and drown again quite a few times before they found him.
Considering future wolveirnes conciousness returned to its own time/body once the timeline was successfully altered then the wolverine pulled outta the river has been drowing and reviving and drowning again with metal rods weighing him down for hours and he has no idea whats going on or how he got there. Maybe he will think someone gave him really bad acid again.
Considering future wolveirnes conciousness returned to its own time/body once the timeline was successfully altered then the wolverine pulled outta the river has been drowing and reviving and drowning again with metal rods weighing him down for hours and he has no idea whats going on or how he got there. Maybe he will think someone gave him really bad acid again.
Jennifer Lawrence is a fantastic actress, does a great job as Mystique (and really seems to bring more personality and energy to the roll) and looks utterly fantastic either as Mystique or as herself.
Her looks are no Rebeca Romijn, sure, but she's still a good-looking young woman with a lot of energy and personality.
I think she does a great job with Mystique.
I also think the younger cast does a great job playing the younger versions of these characters, the older cast does a great job playing the older versions. (Though, I've never been *completely* sold on Ian as Magneto.)
Really, the movie makers have done a good job of casting.
Her looks are no Rebeca Romijn, sure, but she's still a good-looking young woman with a lot of energy and personality.
I think she does a great job with Mystique.
I also think the younger cast does a great job playing the younger versions of these characters, the older cast does a great job playing the older versions. (Though, I've never been *completely* sold on Ian as Magneto.)
Really, the movie makers have done a good job of casting.
Best Terminator movie yet!
If he can survive a nuclear blast then been stuck under water won't be to much trouble for him.Hours + defibrillation I would believe.
But he came out and up choking and pissed and significantly "alive".
It's not that he was alive, but he hadn't even passed out from lack of oxygen or hitting the water from however high Magneto threw him.
Nimrod.
His body heals.
It doesn't generate oxygen.
Because of how it heals constantly and quickly he probably needs more oxygen not less.
In Hilander there's a magic spark that brings a drowning immortal back to life in one episode of the tv show, but in the movie Chris lamnert just ignored it.
Having no air is not something you should be able to heal your way out of.
It doesn't generate oxygen.
Because of how it heals constantly and quickly he probably needs more oxygen not less.
In Hilander there's a magic spark that brings a drowning immortal back to life in one episode of the tv show, but in the movie Chris lamnert just ignored it.
Having no air is not something you should be able to heal your way out of.
His entire bone marrow has been replaced by metal. His body magically regenerates from disintegration on subatomic level. But not needing oxygen goes too far?
Here's a question:
We know that Mystique killing Trask in 1973 triggers the creation of the Sentinels, which would eventually "evolve" by Mystique's DNA.
My question: If Mystique was captured in 1973, slained, and had her DNA used to create the Sentinels we see in 2023...how could *any* of the events in X-Men, X2, and The Last Stand happen?
We know that Mystique killing Trask in 1973 triggers the creation of the Sentinels, which would eventually "evolve" by Mystique's DNA.
My question: If Mystique was captured in 1973, slained, and had her DNA used to create the Sentinels we see in 2023...how could *any* of the events in X-Men, X2, and The Last Stand happen?
The adamantium merely covers his skeleton it's not in his actaul bones. You can actaully see that in the second Wolverine movie.
I'm just saying that he would have passed out after a couple hours.
Not died.
The fact that he was still concious means that only Minutes, maybe dozens of minutes had passed between his submergence and his finding.
For Logan to be awake or even mostly alive, "Stryker" would already have to have been on the water looking for him as Magneto tossed him.
How could Mystique be in two places at once?
Yea, I realized I made that error a few minutes ago lol.
Maybe he'll think he was put there by whatever mobster he was pulling bodyguard duty for at the beginning of the film.
Well, the immortals in Highlander seem to be at least partially magical, so I have an easier time going with that.
But I agree that Wolverine seemed to be submerged for too long. It certainly strains my credulity.
I also have a problem with when he healed from the nuclear blast in The Wolverine. The healing itself is fine but how did his hair know to come back in the same style?
Too beefy is exactly what I was thinking. But then, Hugh Jackman is too tall to be Wolverine, so who knows?
Magneto can control non-ferrous and even non-magnetic metals. I'm assuming the coin he used in First Class was silver.
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So that was a commemorative coin rather than actual money, unless it was for a ridiculous amount of money greater than price that the silver alone would fetch?
Heard a lovely term the other day "conflict currency".
Heard a lovely term the other day "conflict currency".
Not sure what the comics have done in the years since. I remember drowning being something Logan was not sure he could survive and wasn't eager to find out back in the days of his first solo title. Of course that was probably 8000 Wolverine appearances ago.
Well, some of X-Men (2000) would have happened at any rate. At the very least, we can infer that Magneto still used Rogue to power his machine to try to turn all of the world leaders into mutants. But the rest of the events of that movie are much more in doubt if we're assuming that X-Men Origins: Wolverine didn't happen. So much of X-Men & X2 are predicated upon Wolverine's memory loss 15 years ago.
Someone suggested that, perhaps in the new timeline, Wolverine joined the X-Men in the 1980s after the events of X-Men: Apocalypse. I suppose that's possible but then I think it woulc severely change the Wolverine/Jean Grey/Cyclops dynamic. I can't imagine Wolverine being romantically interested in Jean Grey if he first knew her back when she was a teenager. (Well, I suppose I could imagine it but I'd really rather not...
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IIRC, there was a comic where his entire body got totally melted away in a volcano and he still came back. (My god that sounds so stupid.)
It is sort of an interesting question. Wolverine is long-lived and has his regeneration abilities but is that the same thing as being immortal and unable to die?
In some form of logic he'd still need air to breathe and function so shouldn't he, in theory, be able to drown? Suffocating from oxygen deprivation isn't quite the same thing as a wound healing.
It's also a bigger question of how Wolverine's body manages illness and exposure to viruses, bacteria and other germs.
Our bodies protect us and fight foreign agents through the bone marrow, which comes out through, well, our bones. If Wolverine's bones are covered in the adamantium how are his white blood cells released from the marrow?
Let's ignore how he was treated with the adamantium in "Origins" and assume the more likely, and gruesome, scenario that he was essentially vivisected and had his skeleton plated with the adamantium. How did his muscles, tendons, ligaments and such re-adhere to his skeleton? Did they just attach to the metal? What about his joints? Are they metal-on-metal? Wouldn't this cause a LOT of problems in his joints something akin to very, very severe arthritis?
Seems to me Wolverine would constantly be dying from, and then resurrecting, from the common cold due his immune system being shot because his white blood cells can't get into his blood stream, he'd be a squishy bag because his body mass isn't connected to his skeleton and he'd be in constant pain as the fluid in his joints wouldn't be able to provide proper lubrication, if his joints can even be connected at all which would make him a big blob of bones, muscles, disease and nifty metal.
Yeah, as I recall he regenerated from a single, surviving, living cell which lead to one of the many instances of a metal-less Wolverine.
In some form of logic he'd still need air to breathe and function so shouldn't he, in theory, be able to drown? Suffocating from oxygen deprivation isn't quite the same thing as a wound healing.
It's also a bigger question of how Wolverine's body manages illness and exposure to viruses, bacteria and other germs.
Our bodies protect us and fight foreign agents through the bone marrow, which comes out through, well, our bones. If Wolverine's bones are covered in the adamantium how are his white blood cells released from the marrow?
Let's ignore how he was treated with the adamantium in "Origins" and assume the more likely, and gruesome, scenario that he was essentially vivisected and had his skeleton plated with the adamantium. How did his muscles, tendons, ligaments and such re-adhere to his skeleton? Did they just attach to the metal? What about his joints? Are they metal-on-metal? Wouldn't this cause a LOT of problems in his joints something akin to very, very severe arthritis?
Seems to me Wolverine would constantly be dying from, and then resurrecting, from the common cold due his immune system being shot because his white blood cells can't get into his blood stream, he'd be a squishy bag because his body mass isn't connected to his skeleton and he'd be in constant pain as the fluid in his joints wouldn't be able to provide proper lubrication, if his joints can even be connected at all which would make him a big blob of bones, muscles, disease and nifty metal.
Yeah, as I recall he regenerated from a single, surviving, living cell which lead to one of the many instances of a metal-less Wolverine.
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