When did that get retconned in? all the comics I read in the 80's/90's had it as "always on".
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When did that get retconned in? all the comics I read in the 80's/90's had it as "always on".
I didn't read the article, but it would make sense to me that the future setinals were made by a combination of both Mystique's power and Rogue's power. After all, Mystique can only change her appearance, while Rogue can actually acquire the powers of someone she touches. I'm assuming that, to play to larger audience, the final cut of the film only stressed Mystique's power. I'm fine with that. After all, there are subtle hints in the films that Mystique's abilities go a bit farther than mere appearance. Take, for example, the scene in which Nightcrawler asks her about these powers.
NIGHTCRAWLER: Even their voice?
MYSTIQUE (in Nightcrawler's voice): Even their voice?
NIGHTCRAWLER: Even their voice?
MYSTIQUE (in Nightcrawler's voice): Even their voice?
The original movies were already set maybe ten years into the future.
We just finally caught up is all.
We just finally caught up is all.
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Generally, that was assumed to be the case. More recent issues have shown that the trauma of Rogue's first absorption put a sort of mental block in her mind and her powers never really matured in the way they were intended to. Hence why they always seemed switched on and she had no conscious control, but the mind of Carol Danvers was shown to be able to control the absorption power when the two of them agreed to share temporary control of Rogue's body. So the idea of the control issue being more of a psychological problem is not exactly new, but it's only been touched on specifically in some of the modern issues.
For Sentinels, I think Rogue would be a better choice than Shaw, personally. His mutation is powerful but more limited than hers, and the comic incarnation couldn't create energy bolts like the film version.
If Apocalypse is such a big deal... Why didn't he take care of the Sentinels?
Survival of the fittest he would be attesting, thinking that the weak would be removed from the equation and all would be good, and then feeling really very embarrassed after they all die.
I wonder if Apocalypse has a decent singing voice?
"I think we're alone now
There doesn't seem to be anyone around
I think we're alone now
The beating of our hearts is the only sound"
Survival of the fittest he would be attesting, thinking that the weak would be removed from the equation and all would be good, and then feeling really very embarrassed after they all die.
I wonder if Apocalypse has a decent singing voice?
"I think we're alone now
There doesn't seem to be anyone around
I think we're alone now
The beating of our hearts is the only sound"
Rogue has actually had full control over her powers for several years now, ever since she met the infant Hope, "The Mutant Messiah".
Parallel continuity.
They cherry pick.
The standard comics Universe is Earth 616.
The Movie Universe is Earth 199999.
http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/Earth-199999
They cherry pick.
The standard comics Universe is Earth 616.
The Movie Universe is Earth 199999.
http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/Earth-199999
I'm hoping to see this movie again pretty soon, because there is something I caught in that end scene when Wolverine snaps back to his future self. I don't know if I'm reading too much into it, but right before the camera cuts to Bobby and Rogue in the hall, there is a kid Wolverine sees first. This kid, I swear had a stripe in his hair almost exactly like Rogue's. I don't know, was this just a random mutant or some subtle way to imply that Rogue and Bobby had a kid together? I've only seen the film once so I can't say.
In the comics it's a dye job. Or at least it was originally a die job and then as time went by, everyone drawing and writing the character forgot.
But in the Movies it's damage from being in Magneto's gene warping machine in the first movie.
Oh.
Movie Rouge's shock of white still being present in Days of Future Past, means that Magneto still did what he did in the original time line after a fashion to some effect.
But in the Movies it's damage from being in Magneto's gene warping machine in the first movie.
Oh.
Movie Rouge's shock of white still being present in Days of Future Past, means that Magneto still did what he did in the original time line after a fashion to some effect.
The comics may have given her some level of "control" over her mutant ability but no such ability has been demonstrated to be the case in the movie franchise. We could probably quibble that as the cure reversed itself her power was impacted giving her the ability to control it but, again, this has not been demonstrated to be the case in the movies.
I had thought it was established that this was an entirely new timeline?
Sorry.
The creative types in the real world "cherry pick" from 616 to staff concepts in "199999".
There have been some prequel comics and parallel comic that tied into the movies, and that continuity had to be stuck somewhere somewhat disconnected form the rest of Marvel's multiverse.
The creative types in the real world "cherry pick" from 616 to staff concepts in "199999".
There have been some prequel comics and parallel comic that tied into the movies, and that continuity had to be stuck somewhere somewhat disconnected form the rest of Marvel's multiverse.
I just read the original comic and it's Rachel Summers who sends Kitty's consciousness back in time. Does real-world Rachel ever demonstrate this ability? They didn't explain it at all in the comic.
As for where Apocalypse was... he was in hibernation for that whole time!
As for where Apocalypse was... he was in hibernation for that whole time!
Lets assume the next X-Men movie is going to be set in the early 80s.
if Apocalypse set his alarm clock to wake him up at a specific time, then he would have still woken up at that specific time because he made that decision before the timeline split.
If when the alarm clock was set to ring was chronological, then he's getting his shit together in the early 1980s in both timelines.
If when the alarm clock was set to ring was mutant developmental, then the new timeline after Mystique saved Nixon is well ahead of the curve than when the mutant civilization is still pretending they don't exist 4 decades further up the other timestream.
if Apocalypse set his alarm clock to wake him up at a specific time, then he would have still woken up at that specific time because he made that decision before the timeline split.
If when the alarm clock was set to ring was chronological, then he's getting his shit together in the early 1980s in both timelines.
If when the alarm clock was set to ring was mutant developmental, then the new timeline after Mystique saved Nixon is well ahead of the curve than when the mutant civilization is still pretending they don't exist 4 decades further up the other timestream.
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Don't be ridiculous. No one had their shit together in the '80s.
According to wikipedia...
Marvel Girl utilizes her psionic talents in conjunction with her ability to manipulate time in a variety of ways. "Chronoskimming" describes her ability to temporarily transplant a person's mind and send it through time into a younger/older version, a close ancestor/descendant, or as a disembodied astral form.[1] Rachel unconsciously emanates a fourth dimensional pulse, effectively creating a chrono-shield that protects her from changes in the timeline.[51] She can also sense and manipulate residual psychic energy in the form of psychometry.[49][52][53]
Marvel Girl utilizes her psionic talents in conjunction with her ability to manipulate time in a variety of ways. "Chronoskimming" describes her ability to temporarily transplant a person's mind and send it through time into a younger/older version, a close ancestor/descendant, or as a disembodied astral form.[1] Rachel unconsciously emanates a fourth dimensional pulse, effectively creating a chrono-shield that protects her from changes in the timeline.[51] She can also sense and manipulate residual psychic energy in the form of psychometry.[49][52][53]
The Phoenix.
That planet eating monster was living inside Rachel.
(She later used the Phoenix powered time powers to launch a former mirror universe NAZI super train they had liberated from the Reich, through the multiverse to new random destinations looking for 616 in Excalibur's epic Cross Time Caper after they got "lost".)
He's where it gets sketchy...
If Rachel had the Phoenix inside her during Days of Future Past, then she should have had the power to win out a war against clunky 90s tech Sentinels, and moreso when she Took the freejacking phoenix inside her back tot he 1980s... Are there not now Two Phoenixes?
Moreso, wouldn't the Universe (Rachel's mother was Jean Grey, not Madelyn Prior (A Jean Grey Clone with a seriously weird backstory who fathered cable/Nathan Christopher Summers because Jean was dead and ipso facto it was already an alternate timeline.) now that it has two Phoenixes fulfilling the same cosmic obligations, if not too much cosmic obligation has some serious congestion issues?
**Sigh**
Eventually Excalibur (Captain Britain, Phoenix, Night Crawler, Kitty Pride, others.) got bored of all this Days of Future Past temporal junk just shitting on them from some way off parallel timeline that was never going to be their future, so they went there to dealt with it once and for all.
But considering the further sequels and prequels that kept and keep happening, I don't think anyone but me read those books.
That planet eating monster was living inside Rachel.
(She later used the Phoenix powered time powers to launch a former mirror universe NAZI super train they had liberated from the Reich, through the multiverse to new random destinations looking for 616 in Excalibur's epic Cross Time Caper after they got "lost".)
He's where it gets sketchy...
If Rachel had the Phoenix inside her during Days of Future Past, then she should have had the power to win out a war against clunky 90s tech Sentinels, and moreso when she Took the freejacking phoenix inside her back tot he 1980s... Are there not now Two Phoenixes?
Moreso, wouldn't the Universe (Rachel's mother was Jean Grey, not Madelyn Prior (A Jean Grey Clone with a seriously weird backstory who fathered cable/Nathan Christopher Summers because Jean was dead and ipso facto it was already an alternate timeline.) now that it has two Phoenixes fulfilling the same cosmic obligations, if not too much cosmic obligation has some serious congestion issues?
**Sigh**
Eventually Excalibur (Captain Britain, Phoenix, Night Crawler, Kitty Pride, others.) got bored of all this Days of Future Past temporal junk just shitting on them from some way off parallel timeline that was never going to be their future, so they went there to dealt with it once and for all.
But considering the further sequels and prequels that kept and keep happening, I don't think anyone but me read those books.
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