Would like to see Enterprise come back…

[Greystorm]

I wish there were more Enterprise seasons. I felt the show found a solid footing somewhere in season 3 and season 4 was quite good. I feel like the mistake it made was trying to hard to be a replica of previous trek shows. But I don't think it could come back now, two decades later.

As many trek shows as we have now, I still would love more of them.

 

[Snowdrop82]

I wish there were more Enterprise seasons. I felt the show found a solid footing somewhere in season 3 and season 4 was quite good. I feel like the mistake it made was trying to hard to be a replica of previous trek shows. But I don't think it could come back now, two decades later.

As many trek shows as we have now, I still would love more of them.

I wish Enterprise got 7 seasons like TNG.

 

[Dee1891]

I'm not interested in seeing a return of "Enterprise". I don't hate it like I used to. But it's just not a favorite of mine.

 

[bdub76]

Given how old the actors are now, I'd be up for an animated series like Clone Wars with the same actors voicing their characters.

 

[FederationHistorian]

Given how old the actors are now, I'd be up for an animated series like Clone Wars with the same actors voicing their characters.

Nope. Not too old for live action. Not if you approach it like “Tapestry” from TNG and have the crew remain they are but appear younger to the crew. Considering that such a great job was done to make John De Lancie look younger in PIC S2, no reason that could be done with the ENT cast (both main and supporting) if needed.

No T’Pol? Then make Hoshi first officer. I think everyone would appreciate her having a larger role. Same thing with Mayweather if they just promote him to second officer. And T’Pol can be on a quest to discover what it means to be Vulcan to explain her absence. I’m not the one hung up on it be a perfect reunion. Everyone is welcome to come back, but its understandable if they can’t or don’t want to.

Only one too old is the person who played Admiral Gardner in the mirror universe, and I’d just recast him a younger middle age black guy for the prime universe, for the sake of a more diverse United Earth Starfleet.

Animation is really more for the sets (even though there is no reason that the refit NX-01 has to have the same bridge) and because its cheaper than live action. Its around $1M per episode from PRO and $500K for LD. DIS is expensive not just for Star Trek, but in general as a tv show at $8M-8.5M per episode, and its unfair to hold other potential live action Star Trek series to that standard. Not even PIC cost as much to make as DIS does (around $2M per episode).

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Reading interviews just recently and it seems there is at least desire in Terry Matalas to do something with the characters of Enterprise:

https://trekmovie.com/2022/06/18/te...-pilot-potential-and-other-legacy-characters/

Towards the end of the article. First order of business would be to bring Trip back apparently. But desire is a long way from making something happen. Still, maybe if whoever wants more wishes hard enough then we might see Archer and Tucker again one day.

 

[Hopeful Romantic]

Well, that would certainly right a great wrong in the annals of Trek finales. Not to mention, make up for some very shoddy writing. Bring it on!!!

p.s. Love your avatar, @Richard S. Ta. "Calvin and Hobbes" is one of my two most favorite cartoons ("The Far Side" is the other).

 

[Ferengi Prime 5]

I felt the show found a solid footing somewhere in season 3 and season 4 was quite good.

I think most Star trek Series do not get good until the 3 season. It seems by than the writers have all the characters worked out. Enterprise had the worst opening of any Star Trek ever... I think it just killed it from their...

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Well, that would certainly right a great wrong in the annals of Trek finales. Not to mention, make up for some very shoddy writing. Bring it on!!!

p.s. Love your avatar, @Richard S. Ta. "Calvin and Hobbes" is one of my two most favorite cartoons ("The Far Side" is the other).

Aw. A few days ago I was lucky enough to find a complete set of C&H with a 33% discount. Every strip, plus poems, extra strips, artwork and an intro from Bill Waterson.

It’s legendary stuff but my wife’s never seen it before. We read a months worth of strips every night now before we sleep.

Anyway, back to Enterprise. Exactly as you all were.

 

[Hopeful Romantic]

Aw. A few days ago I was lucky enough to find a complete set of C&H with a 33% discount. Every strip, plus poems, extra strips, artwork and an intro from Bill Waterson.

It’s legendary stuff but my wife’s never seen it before. We read a months worth of strips every night now before we sleep.

Anyway, back to Enterprise. Exactly as you all were.

Wonderful find! The Sunday color strips and the extra goodies from the individual collections are just gold. So happy your wife is finally enjoying the genius of C&H.

Now how do I make a smooth transition from comics back to Enterprise? Er -- In one of my ENT fanfics I used a quote from a "Far Side" comic! There. Carry on, all!

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Wonderful find! The Sunday color strips and the extra goodies from the individual collections are just gold. So happy your wife is finally enjoying the genius of C&H.

It's one of the few times I passionately advocated physical media over digital. My wife had the idea to read it online for free. Usually I'm all digital but I really feel Calvin and Hobbes is a thing that needs to be held.

Also, on topic, I like Star Trek.

 

[FederationHistorian]

First order of business would be to bring Trip back apparently.

And do they plan to do that?

- Section 31?
- Temporal Cold War nonsense?
- Trip was placed in a stasis pod and saved later on?
- Time crystal?
- It was a second clone of Trip all along?
- Playing a clip of Jonathan Frakes from Beyond Belief saying the event never happened and we move on from there?

 

[Richard S. Ta]

And do they plan to do that?

- Section 31?
- Temporal Cold War nonsense?
- Trip was placed in a stasis pod and saved later on?
- Time crystal?
- It was a second clone of Trip all along?
- Playing a clip of Jonathan Frakes from Beyond Belief saying the event never happened and we move on from there?

Faulty holodeck program?

 

[Dukhat]

Faulty holodeck program?

That would be pretty much the only way that wouldn't be contrived nonsense.

But, really. Trineer was in his 30's during ENT. He's in his 50's now. Would the audiences of DSC, SNW, PIC, LDS or PRO really even care about Trip Tucker?

 

[Hopeful Romantic]

Faulty holodeck program?

Forget drunken Barclay's deliberate FUBAR of the holodeck program to mess with Riker's head.

T'Pol wakes up, goes to the shower, and Trip is in there, taking a shower, gives her a big grin. "Howdy darlin!" His death never happened. She dreamed TATV. Which makes sense, since it was a clown horror nightmare.

But Vulcans don't dream! you protest. Ah, but she's bonded to Trip, so...

The ultimate reset button / retcon / brazen erasure of a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad episode. If they could erase the previous year on "Dallas" with a straight face, surely they could erase six years for a Star Trek show.

Age differences? Pffft. They went through a weird space anomaly, came out the other side artificially aged, problem fixed. (See: TOS, "The Deadly Years.")

Even if they do just one TV movie for closure. Or a limited series setting up the Romulan War.

 

[Summer Solstice]

Even if they do just one TV movie for closure. Or a limited series setting up the Romulan War.

I love the TV movie idea! I assume there's a bigger audience than ever for TV movies as streaming makes it so easy to access them.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

But, really. Trineer was in his 30's during ENT. He's in his 50's now. Would the audiences of DSC, SNW, PIC, LDS or PRO really even care about Trip Tucker?

In theory if they are a fan of one Star Trek I guess they'd at least be tangentially interested. One of the appeals of this show is fitting all the pieces together and I'd say that holds true of any fan who came to PIC fresh and visited some Voyager episodes.

If they do it well is another thing. I just thought it was interesting that the door hasn't been closed on it.

 

[FederationHistorian]

Faulty holodeck program?

It is a possibility.

I only brought up the Temporal Cold War because all the previous finales on ENT involved the TCW in some way when it had no business being involved. The series finale being more of the TCW just seems to fit.

Another idea was a Benny Russell cameo briefly mentioning that TATV was not the original ending he planned, it was Mr. Stone’s idea, and he throws the TATV story in the trashbin.

But, really. Trineer was in his 30's during ENT. He's in his 50's now. Would the audiences of DSC, SNW, PIC, LDS or PRO really even care about Trip Tucker?

No disrespect intended, but it this a serious question? Since LD is the only one of the new shows to reference Trip by name at all. Its also the only series so far to show Denobulans onscreen since ENT ended, and has featured the Andorian battlecruiser. And a Vulcan cruiser that resembles a 22nd century D’kyr class Vulcan cruiser. At the very least, there is a built-in audience from LD. The next one being from Picard due to certain ships being referenced as easter eggs this past season.

Plus we know they at least tried to recruit Jon Billingsley for PRO. They aren’t trying to bring back one offs no one remembers. They are sticking with cast people know i.e. main cast members.

I would say that LD & PIC would have the ENT audience, followed by SNW. DIS is iffy because they only namedrop Archer and the Temporal Wars. Section 31 is as much a DS9 reference as an ENT one. The Klingon redesign was influenced by the Klingon Augment virus story. There are references to Shran & Empress Sato in the very first season, but they are blink and you miss it type things; the show has never gone out of its way to openly acknowledge those characters. DIS did have an episode devoted to the Akaali this past season, but if you never watched ENT or Trek in general before – and DIS audience seem to be aimed at newbies to Trek - would you know that episode is a call back referencing ENT? The audience for the other shows at least have an awareness for Enterprise to varying degrees.

Age differences? Pffft. They went through a weird space anomaly, came out the other side artificially aged, problem fixed. (See: TOS, "The Deadly Years.")

And they went to Risa for special de-aging therapy during the Romulan War.

 

[Dukhat]

There’s a huge difference between showing a bunch of ENT Easter Eggs in a comedic animated show, and bringing back an entire unpopular live-action show from 20 years ago just to retcon what happened to one of the characters. I mean, does Trineer even care about Trip anymore?

 

[Jedi Marso]

Bringing back Trip would be the easiest thing in the world, since the finale was a holodeck program aboard the TNG Enterprise.

His death was a historical hiccup misinterpreted by the computer generating the program, or the result of a malfunction caused by Geordi running a diagnostic in engineering or something. It never actually happened that way. Problem solved. Waaaaaaaaaaaay easier than most of the 'transporter malfunction' resolutions.