Odd as it seems to me, VOY is the most watched Trek on Netflix.
Will Discovery stand up to repeat viewings as the others do??
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Odd as it seems to me, VOY is the most watched Trek on Netflix.
Probably because it wasn't well watched first-run and it didn't sell a lot of DVDs. I watch VOY on Netflix because I own TOS, TNG and DS9 as physical media.
There isn't anything below Cloudminders on that list that is even in the same ballpark as "rewatchable" as even DSC's weakest episode thus far.
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It held up fine for me.
The serialization was not an issue since it was so recent. 5 years from now it could be confusing.
I recently started & completed a rewatch of Trek (I broke my leg and was bedridden for months). Voyager was, by far, the toughest to get through. Paris visiting the holodeck again was brutal. And I liked early VOY a lot. Enterprise grew on me the second time. As did DS9 (after the first two seasons).
Still thought TOS S1-S2 & TNG S3-S7 were the best. With DS9 homestretch taking the Bronze.
The serialization was not an issue since it was so recent. 5 years from now it could be confusing.
I recently started & completed a rewatch of Trek (I broke my leg and was bedridden for months). Voyager was, by far, the toughest to get through. Paris visiting the holodeck again was brutal. And I liked early VOY a lot. Enterprise grew on me the second time. As did DS9 (after the first two seasons).
Still thought TOS S1-S2 & TNG S3-S7 were the best. With DS9 homestretch taking the Bronze.
I'm sure it will hold up, for me at least. All the other shows get constant re-watches by me for nearly no reason except "why not" and there's bad stretches of each show. The first 2 years of DS9 are not ideal. And the whole Kazon arc made me want to jump out a window. Let's not start on TNG's first two years either or the fact that Kirk had to stick his d*** in every hole in the galaxy constantly for 3 seasons. There's problems with every show.
I have re-watched Discovery in entirety once so far though and the only thing I've noticed is I enjoyed it more as a whole season than the individual episodes. Enjoyed how the smaller stories formed a longer one. I realize barely any time has passed since season 1, but this was definitely an observation I had once I saw the whole season at once.
I have re-watched Discovery in entirety once so far though and the only thing I've noticed is I enjoyed it more as a whole season than the individual episodes. Enjoyed how the smaller stories formed a longer one. I realize barely any time has passed since season 1, but this was definitely an observation I had once I saw the whole season at once.
Bear in mind the medium skews the figures here, TNG and TOS will have been rewatched many times prior to the advent of Netflix or Voyager, meaning much of the rewatching that will happen has happened already. Equally Disco hasn't had time to be given a fair representation. That really means comparing DS9, VOY and ENT, of which ENT is also at a disadvantage in terms of raw figures because it has significantly fewer episodes to count towards the figures.
True enough for TOS, which spent 25 years in syndication before VOY showed up... but VOY and TNG premiered (and finale'd) only seven years apart. They came very close to overlapping on the air. Both series became widely available on DVD at about the same time, and not a lot of people out there had VHS tapes of the whole TNG series. So I think it's pretty fair to compare the two's "ratings" on Netflix.
This is not something I understand, but it does seem that VOY has an edge in rewatchability.
Perhaps, in the era of binge-viewing, TNG's dire first season turns off too many viewers. I know I had one friend who tried TOS and then gave up in a rage. "Why?" I asked him. "Because they only made it ten episodes in before they made me watch a ****** clip show!" Turns out Netflix (for reasons known only to Netflix) makes "The Cage" the first episode of the series (it should be the last, or a bonus feature) and then doesn't warn you about "The Menagerie." So these questions of episode order matter now in a way they didn't when the series were first syndicated.
I dunno, seven years seems pretty significant to me, we're talking best part of a decade between equivalent stages in their respective runs.
I don't consider myself a "Trekkie" but I loved Discovery and have watched a lot of episodes a few times. I watched 2,3,4,5 last night on Netflix and still loved watching it. I have to say I much prefer the ongoing story and probably but will probably jump the visit to the planet where Saru gots nuts. Thats probably the type of episode that turned me off Trek when I was younger (50 now). I think I like watching more having always read these boards and posted a couple of times. I'm keeping a keen eye on Tilly this time as after the spore landing on her I'm trying to see if anything lets me know if she will be used as the next "Super Computer" to enable jumps or if this will somehow make her the villian. I've not noticed anything yet.
Can anyone tell me when new episodes are expected as with only 15 in S1 you can go through them quite quickly.
Yeah binge watching TOS on Netflix without the prior knowledge of the two pilots and the fact the order isn't production order and so on doesn't perhaps produce the best impression which is a real shame because its first season is so strong overall it should hook even modern viewers. But as it stands at the moment, the cast changes wildly, and without explanation, the show's look and the characters wobble around like they forgot the changes from the week before, and as you mention there is a two part clip show in the middle. In contrast, TNG, DS9, ENT and VOY, even with the perhaps more flawed first seasons, are better suited to the binging format because they were designed to be watched in order, with the respective pilots written to introduce you to the show and characters in a staged way.
Bear in mind if there were an audience wishing to rewatch other Trek they still could've. They just didn't.
But my point is the Netflix figures don't tell us that, all they tell us is how many times each series has been rewatched on Netflix. TOS will have been rewatched to death long before VOY came on the air, likewise TNG has best part of a decade prior to VOY for DVD rewatches. The only fair comparison really would be between DS9 and VOY and even there the episodic nature of VOY lends itself to a casual rewatch more so then the serialised DS9 story arcs.
If Netflix had a choice of Treks to watch and people still preferred one more than the others you can't rationalise that result away. It's a statistic.
Well, no, not really, statistics have to be considered in context. Netflix is one of several media operating over a set time period which doesn't cover the lifespan of the franchise. Much of the TOS and TNG rewatches will have occurred long before Netflix existed and utilising different media. In many cases those rewatches will still be happening and still won't contribute to the visible figures.
That's the thing about collecting statistics, they are only useful if the criteria for selecting them as truthfully representing the observed phenomena are valid.
Well, yes. Netflix is the context we have been looking at with the example, where an actual statistic has been shown. By all means provide other statistics. Do you have them?
That those statistics aren't available is the point, we have no idea which show has been rewatched then most, merely which has been rewatched the most on Netflix.
We can't really extrapolate that to make definitive statements about the relative popularity of the different shows without making unfounded assumptions.
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