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Why the hate for Alex Kurtzman?

Nope. You'll still hate them.
Not quite sure how people still come out with this when there have been showrunners people have been receptive to after a bad period.

Ira Behr, Manny Coto, Akiviva Goldsman, Terry Matalas off the top of myhead. RDM was heavily involved in DS9 with Behr too supposedly.
 
Not quite sure how people still come out with this when there have been showrunners people have been receptive to after a bad period.

Ira Behr, Manny Coto, Akiviva Goldsman, Terry Matalas off the top of myhead. RDM was heavily involved in DS9 with Behr too supposedly.
The comment that Pubes was responding to was in regards to the head of the franchise. Someone such as Kurtzman or Berman, not the individual showrunners. And yes, it's a pretty safe bet that whoever does eventually replace Kurtzman will be hated by at least some members of the fandom. Trek clearly means different things to different people, and some in the fandom seem to hate anything that doesn't conform to their individual beliefs on the direction the franchise should take.
 
Arguing with mod instructions again.
Saying “you’re wrong” is not flaming by any stretch of the imagination.

Moving on.
He is lying and gaslighting about my post instead of engaging the question or point honestly.

I guess he is part of the clique though, so whatever.
 
What barometer would you like Trek to be rated against?

There are people here who are so obsessed with ratings, they post 5,000 word diatribes with charts and graphs on it. They get giddy at the prospect that they’ve found the nugget that will take Kurtzman down. Why does that matter? Honestly?

It doesn’t matter to me if a show gets canceled or not. I have a job, a wife, two kids, and a dog. I don’t have time to worry about ratings. It’s entertainment and there’s tons more out there in the world at the moment.
 
The comment that Pubes was responding to was in regards to the head of the franchise. Someone such as Kurtzman or Berman, not the individual showrunners. And yes, it's a pretty safe bet that whoever does eventually replace Kurtzman will be hated by at least some members of the fandom. Trek clearly means different things to different people, and some in the fandom seem to hate anything that doesn't conform to their individual beliefs on the direction the franchise should take.
That's true, but there will always be people who are disliked for whatever reason. Matalas is disliked for people on here simply because he made Star Trek palatable to people once more for a brief moment rather than universally reviled. I remember with Enterprise it was the same thing when Coto briefly made it a logical series that felt somewhat like Trek.

There are people here who are so obsessed with ratings, they post 5,000 word diatribes with charts and graphs on it. They get giddy at the prospect that they’ve found the nugget that will take Kurtzman down. Why does that matter? Honestly?

It doesn’t matter to me if a show gets canceled or not. I have a job, a wife, two kids, and a dog. I don’t have time to worry about ratings. It’s entertainment and there’s tons more out there in the world at the moment.
Then you should answer the question of what barometers you consider a success instead of running away and initating dogpiles to the detriment of a once respected community.

The prosecution complex is strong in this one.
Excuse me for someone PMing me and informing me of a private forum full of people who were posting and directing their posts towards me.
 
He is lying and gaslighting about my post instead of engaging the question or point honestly.

I guess he is part of the clique though, so whatever.

You’ve already been warned for arguing with moderator instructions in another forum, so I know that you know you can’t do that.

You’ve earned a formal warning. Comments to PM.

Everyone else let’s drop this. Thanks.
 
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