Why is Neelix so obnoxious

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  1. cosmic mouse

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    Neelix also could have been the ship's counselor... a position that was sorely needed. There is no way they could have forecasted being stranded in the DQ, but once that happened and the crew's immediate safety was accounted for, Janeway could have thrown someone into that position. Neelix may have been a good candidate.
     
  2. Amaris

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    I don't know, I think he's better as the morale officer and just a friendly ear without an official title on that end. People are more likely to talk to their bartender, the cook, or just the friendly person in the diner, than they are a ship sanctioned counselor. At least, in my opinion.
     
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  3. cosmic mouse

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    Yeah, you're probably right. I def agree he is better as the morale dude, but that ship needed a psyche ward if any ship ever did! Someone should have been assigned that task... maybe Chakotay. :shrug:
     
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  4. Amaris

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    B'Elanna. :D
     
  5. cosmic mouse

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    :guffaw:
     
  6. Ghislaine H. B. BRAEME

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    Kes also could have been the ship's counselor... a position that was sorely needed, for sure, especially according to the unusual position of Voyager's crew (lost in the middle of nowhere, at the equally unknown enemies's mercy, for an indefinite time.
    -> she had all the qualities to do this.
     
  7. φ of π

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    Neelix is the personification of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
     
  8. cosmic mouse

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    perhaps that would disqualify him from the role of ship's counselor. :lol:
     
  9. Stroudarian

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    In my opinion, I think that he is probably more depressed than anything else, given that he had led a rather tragic life. I think that his "outgoing" and "cheery" personality and likewise traits are probably a front to help mask and project a false sense of happiness. I don't think that he wants others to know that he is depressed. Of course, this is just my opinion and my interpretation. I have not seen the series in years. I could be totally wrong.
     
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  10. Refuge

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    I think it's kind of cool you getting to enjoy some of Voyager.

    Neelix lost his family and his home world. I really think the Voyager family became people he wanted to give his caring to and maybe gain some self-worth back in the process. Under his colourful exterior was a lot guilt about not serving in the war. Survivor's guilt I suppose.
     
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    I was just writing along those same lines!
     
  12. Amaris

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    Thanks! I am enjoying it. :)
    I agree, there's definitely survivor's guilt underneath Neelix's cheery demeanor.
     
  13. Refuge

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    It's funny how you can click with something out of the blue. Maybe in part it's because it's comfort TV. I don't know. I've started to watch TOS again after thinking I was over it. Yet year before last when TOS was having its anniversary and they screened it I was irritated, lol. Now I'm back baby :lol:
     
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  14. Amaris

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    Indeed. Sometimes everything just comes together and you find yourself enjoying it where before you detested it. Our brains are weird.
     
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    He's obnoxious because that's just the way his personality is. He can't help it. :shrug:

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  16. Amaris

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    He was killing it for me as the Grand Proxy when I was watching "False Profits" last night. :lol:
     
  17. Gul Sengosts

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    Because he's just over-the-top silly and annoying 95% of the time. The comparison with Jar Jar Binks is unfair because Jar Jar isn't nearly as annoying (and fit rather well into that stupid prequel trilogy). Some of the best VOY moments involved Neelix dying.

    I think I never had the thought "I hope he dies" about any other character in Trek history. Not even Wesley.
     
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  18. 2takesfrakes

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    A small part of Neelix problem is that he's played by Ethan Phillips who's kind of like another Peter MacNicol. But the lion's share of Neelix problem is that, as with Kes, the VOYAGER team had no idea what to do with the character. The only reason he never got killed off, of course, is that he's the resident latex-headed alien. He looks like a hyæna and, by rights, should've kind of had the temperament of one. Poor Kes. She could've done so much better for herself ...
     
  19. cosmic mouse

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    Fo shiz.
    Harry might have got on well with Kes, as an alternative to Neelix. He was available and probably willing anyway.
     
  20. 2takesfrakes

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    Garrett Wang has The Look that women seem to crave -- at least according to a "sexiest men on TV" survey by People magazine, back in the day -- but Harry Kim has a suck-off personality. No better than Neelix, really. Tom & Kes would've looked great together and having the bad boy end up with the good girl would've been sweet. But then ... where would that have left my favourite girl on the show, B'Elanna? With Vorik, perhaps ... or curling up with a Romantic Novel in her quarters every night. Naturally, she did get hit on a lot, despite that ... that atrocious rubber head. Neelix rubber head was no less an atrocity ... but, oh! ... the temptation to play at Beauty & The Beast with he and Kes was too great to ignore, apparently! "Brilliant," they remarked. "Their every scene together will write itself!" Will it?

    ... will it?