That still happens. You see it in a couple Voyager episodes
The Nanoprobes just seem to be for the smaller implants and subduing people.
The bigger implants, and the replaced limbs are still done the old fashioned way.
Why is First Contact actually so beloved by the fandom?
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The Nanoprobes just seem to be for the smaller implants and subduing people.
The bigger implants, and the replaced limbs are still done the old fashioned way.
Perhaps you didn't see that gruesome surgery scene in FC?
For the Chuck Norris of Star Trek, everything's a walk in the park. When you die 17 times and still make admiral, what's a little Borgification?
Perhaps you didn't see that gruesome surgery scene in FC?
Yes, there are still scenes showing some Borg surgery (FC and "Dark Frontier" for example).
But what i meant is the fact that a simple injection is all that is necessary to become Borg.
To make my point clearer, compare being captured by the Borg to be put under a brutal surgery while possibly still being conscious at that time with being ambushed by a drone, getting injected with nano probes and then when already being part of the collective going through the procedure.
What is scarier?
Both.
You have a point.
Not everything is done with nanoprobes, even Seven talks about surgery.
If only they had phlox with them... He can find a cure for anything... and then keep it to himself.
If only they had phlox with them... He can find a cure for anything... and then keep it to himself.
I think the assumption that it is only nanoprobes is perhaps going too far. The Borg are adaptable, by their own admission and presentation. But, we see surgery as well, which is terrifying but so is nanoprobes. To be injected and slowly feel the loss of control, your mind unable to command your body any more. That's terrifying to me, just like the surgery.
The Borg are all about managing resources for their goals. I imagine nanoprobes are helpful but surgery is quicker.
The Borg are all about managing resources for their goals. I imagine nanoprobes are helpful but surgery is quicker.
Yeah, and if I remember correctly there was screaming.The aliens in Dark Frontier were brought aboard and not injected with nanoprobes, but to assimilation chambers. Perhaps nanoprobes are only used when there's no time or too much resistance
Right, and when one of them started running, he got injected
Well one reason for the difference is they assimilated the technology to allow use of nano-probes to aid in assimilation. However I suspect that not to be the case due to episodes of VOY contradicting that idea.
FC doesn’t break the continuity with the look of the Borg. But VOY: Dark Frontier does in the flashback scenes. The Borg that the Hansen’s observe should look like the TNG drones.
as for the nanoprobes. I always kinda figured it was something the Borg used to quickly get victims under control and get information they needed then as things progressed they would modify the drone.
just because we didn’t see Picard get injected doesn’t mean it didn’t go down that way.
FC had stakes involved - Earth's future in the balance, Picard's history with the Borg, the presence of the Borg when they were still scary, and a new and never before seen Enterprise. And was the closest we ever got to a crossover involving TNG, DS9 & VOY. GEN and INS did not really have stakes; GEN was a TOS crossover that destroyed an iconic ship and killed of an iconic character, and INS just referenced DS9 and was a glorified TNG episode.
FC felt like the biggest movie of the TNG era.
That it was one of the even numbered movies, and those films are seen as the best of Trek, helps too.
FC felt like the biggest movie of the TNG era.
That it was one of the even numbered movies, and those films are seen as the best of Trek, helps too.
Now thanks to Janeway they can even assimilate 8472.
The aliens in Dark Frontier were brought aboard and not injected with nanoprobes, but to assimilation chambers. Perhaps nanoprobes are only used when there's no time or too much resistance
Almost everyone would resist like hell. So i guess most of the people would get nanoprobed at some point.
That's still a kinder fate than being cut open and getting the implants, while being (possibly) fully awake, considering that the same things also happen during the surgery.
Yep. They retconned away a part of the horror.
he gets stuck with a glowing needle when he gets "desaturated". That could be nanoprobes.
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Not to mention when he is kidnapped the Borg puts his arm gizmo up to Picard's neck and does something to knock him out. Nanoprobes?
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Possibly both being earlier versions of the nanoprobe tech.
With the arm gizmo having simply a stunning effect and the needle thingy having a similar effect on the skin as the later probes.
But none of them being responsible for him becoming Locutus, as Picard was still the same when talking with the collective and already a Borg when he was poked with the needle.
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