Why are so many of the UFP's powerful neighbors hostile towards them?

[T'Girl]

Re: Why are so many of the UFP's powerful neighbors hostile towards th

She was a murderous terrorist who was no better than the Taliban.

For three generations that was pretty much the standard description of a Bajorian.

Kira from Accession
When the Cardassians occupied Bajor we gave up the D'jarras so that we could fight them.
We all became soldiers.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Re: Why are so many of the UFP's powerful neighbors hostile towards th

She was a murderous terrorist who was no better than the Taliban.

For three generations that was pretty much the standard description of a Bajorian.

Kira from Accession
When the Cardassians occupied Bajor we gave up the D'jarras so that we could fight them.
We all became soldiers.

Two things about that:

- Winn's actions all took place after the occupation was over

- She was demonstratably more evil than any other Bajoran we've ever seen on the show. She didn't do what she did to fight for freedom or anything like that - she did it with the express purpose of killing all who opposed her. Look at what eventually happened to her...

 

[T'Girl]

Re: Why are so many of the UFP's powerful neighbors hostile towards th

Winn's actions all took place after the occupation was over

In one of the early eoipsodes (first one?), Sisko was having a conversation with Jake. Jake wanted to know why the Bajorian's were fighting amongst themselves, after all they had won the war. Sisko responded that basically after three generations that violence had become the normal way for Bajorian's to deal with their problems. I'm not convinced that Kai Winn had the school destroyed, it could have been a group of parents acting independently or just a single Bajorian in isolation making a statement.

Sisko authorized the formation of the school on the station, going to one of the above posts Keiko was a civilian contractor/employee aboard a Starfleet administered space station. She worked for Sisko. Following the incident, Keiko should have been replaced with a Bajorian teacher (who also would have worked for Sisko). Keiko was right about one thing, the station needed a school for it's children. Sisko should have brought a Bajorian teacher from Bajor. And he should have placed his own son in that school, it would have been a important symbol of the joining of Federation and Bajor. Not just simply Bajor joining the Federation.

 

[T'Girl]

Re: Why are so many of the UFP's powerful neighbors hostile towards th

That is, are UFP members allowed to instruct their children as they like, or must they follow whatever the UFP's education ministry prescribes?

The Federation might not possesses a education ministry. This goes to how (I believe) the Federation government was "built." by the members. The Federation isn't internally composed of British counties, or Japanese prefectures, Each of the members is (for want of a better term) a star nation in of itself. Similar to the case of United Earth with it's large collection of colony star systems, many of the members are basically fair sized star republics.

Together with the single planet systems, these republics, commonwealths, and empires make up the Federation. The members are major warp-capable industrial powers, they wouldn't need to be provided with an education ministry, likely they already have their own.

BUT that wouldn't explain why the other Great Powers are hostile towards the UFP:

Well the hostility/animosity is mutual, which in itself might be one of the problems. And it isn't always a matter of a Great Power wanting to destroy the Federation.

Errand of Mercy was about bunch of (I believe) trade disputes, the Klingons likely had no expectation of destroying the Federation.

The Cardassians and the Federation both wanted the same a strip of territory to expand their respective nations into, neither wanted to (realistically) destroy the other.

Even the Eath/Romulan war, which sounds like it was huge, didn't result in either parties subjugation.





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[Mr. Laser Beam]

Re: Why are so many of the UFP's powerful neighbors hostile towards th

Keiko was a civilian contractor/employee aboard a Starfleet administered space station. She worked for Sisko.

No, she didn't.

Sisko, as commander of the station, presumably had the final say on whether Keiko could set up the school in the first place (if for no other reason than to make sure no one else wanted to use the space), but Keiko was not working FOR him. The whole thing was her idea. She was working for no one but herself.

And he should have placed his own son in that school, it would have been a important symbol of the joining of Federation and Bajor. Not just simply Bajor joining the Federation.

Jake *was* in Keiko's class.

 

[T'Girl]

Re: Why are so many of the UFP's powerful neighbors hostile towards th

And he should have placed his own son in that school, it would have been a important symbol of the joining of Federation and Bajor. Not just simply Bajor joining the Federation.

Jake *was* in Keiko's class.

Yes, Jake was in *Keiko's* class, so was Nog.

I was referring to a new Bajorian/Federation school with a Bajorian teacher. I thought it would have been a great public relations move on Sisko's (and the Federation's) part, putting the Emissary's son under the tutelage of a native teacher.