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Who's getting Paramount+?

Are you getting/Do you have Paramount+?


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I find the idea that Redstone would carve it up implausible

As do I, especially since Bakish has been signaling to the street that Q4 has seen "accelerating" growth driven by original content, with November being a record month.
 
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Had it since the start. We cut the cord in 2008 so all our TV is via internet services. We watch a lot of CBS programs, so we use Paramount + alot, along with Disney +, Hulu, Peacock, Netflix, and some other apps.
 
What does Paramount+ even have besides Star Trek? Because yeah, I'm not getting another streaming service just for Star Trek.
It has a lot of movies, plus stuff from Comedy Central, MTV (I plan on watching Behind the Music & Storytellers episodes I never saw), documentaries from the Smithsonian channel, and Nickelodeon stuff for kids.

Nope. That is why I haven't caught up with Discovery. Ever try to binge watch on a smartphone?
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You know, that's a really great idea...I have a ton of DVD's or BR disks that I've since upgraded from. I should donate those.
Yeah, that IS a great idea!
 
What does Paramount+ even have besides Star Trek? Because yeah, I'm not getting another streaming service just for Star Trek.
Currently: The Good Fight, one of the best dramas in years. Mayor of Kingstown and 1883 are supposed to be very good but I haven't seen them yet. Evil moved to P+ from CBS.

They also have the new iCarly which is surprisingly good, they did a new Reno 911 special and ordered a ton of South Park specials (two have already been released and two more will come every year for the foreseeable future)

Upcoming series are The Italian Job (it's a heist story, that's all I need to know to be interested), Fatal Attraction, Halo and many more.
 
They also have the new iCarly which is surprisingly good,

The iCarly revival is a weird beast because it's written in the same cartoonish, exaggerated, vaudevillian style as the original -- a style that is common for sitcoms aimed at older children and tweens -- but it features much more adult topics (e.g., a tween-sitcom-style cartoonish character mistakenly thinking Carly and Freddie want to have a threesome with her). I'm having trouble figuring out just who the target audience of the show is, unless it's literally 20-somethings who grew up on the original and want the same style of storytelling applied to their young adult experiences.
 
Yeah, I don't really see how the idea of every studio having their own streaming service is a viable business model in the long term. Seems to me that the economic forces that act upon streaming services are analogous to those that acted upon video rental chains in the 1990s -- and just like with those video rental chains, the value of a streaming service is ultimately dependent upon the combination of catalog size and variety of programs the service can offer, not upon the brand name of the studio that produced the service. That's why you didn't see, like, a Paramount-only video rental chain, or a Disney-only video rental chain, or a 20th Century Fox-only video rental chain.

Some of these studio streaming services may be poised to do well if they have a sufficiently large and genre-diverse catalog -- I think Disney+ may stick around in the long run given just how many studios the Walt Disney conglomerate has gobbled up, for instance. I suspect CBSViacom's back catalog is large enough and diverse enough that Paramount+ might stick around as a mid-tier player. But at a certain point I have trouble seeing how, say, Apple is gonna keep making enough money off of Apple TV, unless they keep their output volume low and focus on maintaining a stable high-income subscriber base.
Part of your post is absolutely correct. Not every studio is going to be successful as a major streaming platform. But many will be. In time, cable and broadcast will stop being a form of scripted entertainment content (it's very nearly there), and how much does the typical family spend on a cable bill? Eventually (how long is really the only question) that market will really dry up and consumers dollars will be going to streaming based entertainment. If you keep roughly the same budget the average household could afford quite a few services, if so inclined.

Paramount + biggest issue isn't it's catalog, but its financial ability to produce significant new content. That currently is its biggest downsides they aren't rolling in it. And like any new business venture, you are operating at a loss.

Now one of the few companies that basically doesn't have to worry about this (if they don't want to) is Apple. Apple generally makes between 70 -110 billion in profit a year. To put that into perspective, they could fund every television scripted programming made in North America (or for North American companies), and still have a nice profit left over, without ever even earning a cent on it. For Apple its will basically come down to if they feel that it helps their eco system, or not. If it does, they will take the loss knowing they will rack in the profit on how you consume the material. Be it appletv, a Mac, an iPad, or an iPhone or whatever device they come up with next.
 
I got CBSAll Access when Discovery started. I have that Disney, Netflix and Prime (Prime I pay for shipping media wasn't a consideration), and Apple and I pay less than I did for cable, about half of what I used to pay for cable.

I personally would kill Netflix as well, but my parents like it and they live with me now. I honestly can't remember the last thing I watched on Netflix.
 
I got it when Lower Decks came out, and have caught up on STD, LD, Picard, and NCIS.
Not sure if I'll keep it, I may reassess after S2 of Picard.
 
Part of your post is absolutely correct. Not every studio is going to be successful as a major streaming platform. But many will be. In time, cable and broadcast will stop being a form of scripted entertainment content (it's very nearly there), and how much does the typical family spend on a cable bill? Eventually (how long is really the only question) that market will really dry up and consumers dollars will be going to streaming based entertainment. If you keep roughly the same budget the average household could afford quite a few services, if so inclined.

Paramount + biggest issue isn't it's catalog, but its financial ability to produce significant new content. That currently is its biggest downsides they aren't rolling in it. And like any new business venture, you are operating at a loss.

Now one of the few companies that basically doesn't have to worry about this (if they don't want to) is Apple. Apple generally makes between 70 -110 billion in profit a year. To put that into perspective, they could fund every television scripted programming made in North America (or for North American companies), and still have a nice profit left over, without ever even earning a cent on it. For Apple its will basically come down to if they feel that it helps their eco system, or not. If it does, they will take the loss knowing they will rack in the profit on how you consume the material. Be it appletv, a Mac, an iPad, or an iPhone or whatever device they come up with next.
I hope you're right. I'd love to get rid of cable and just have the streaming services when our contract ends.
 
I hope you're right. I'd love to get rid of cable and just have the streaming services when our contract ends.

That's what we do, and it's pretty affordable. $13.99/month for Netflix, $7.99 for Disney+, $9.99 for Paramount+, $14.99 for HBO Max, $12.99 for Hulu, $4.99 for Apple TV. $64.94/month total, comparable to a bare-bones basic cable plan, and significantly less than the cost of the average cable plan ($217.42).
 
That's what we do, and it's pretty affordable. $13.99/month for Netflix, $7.99 for Disney+, $9.99 for Paramount+, $14.99 for HBO Max, $12.99 for Hulu, $4.99 for Apple TV. $64.94/month total, comparable to a bare-bones basic cable plan, and significantly less than the cost of the average cable plan ($217.42).
That just leaves me figuring out how to get BBC America for Doctor Who. :whistle:
 
That just leaves me figuring out how to get BBC America for Doctor Who. :whistle:

Hmmm…is it just for Doctor Who? ‪‪‪‪I think that’s available on Amazon and iTunes the day after they’re on BBC America a la cart.

‪‪I can’t believe you have to get some bundle to get access to BBC America streaming, that’s bonkers.
 
Hmmm…is it just for Doctor Who? ‪‪‪‪I think that’s available on Amazon and iTunes the day after they’re on BBC America a la cart.

‪‪I can’t believe you have to get some bundle to get access to BBC America streaming, that’s bonkers.
Yep. *And* it costs extra! Plus, my cable package doesn't have CW, which half the shows we watch are on, so we have to watch those online the next day. :brickwall:
 
Yep. *And* it costs extra! Plus, my cable package doesn't have CW, which half the shows we watch are on, so we have to watch those online the next day. :brickwall:

That’s incredibly frustrating! It’s baffling that there isn’t a major streaming service that has Doctor Who available. And ‪‪I remember not having The WB at first when ‪‪I moved many years ago, and lost access to Buffy, and Simpsons reruns, and being elated when my cable service finally brought it in. Not having access to your favorite channels makes cable impossibly irritating, and far too often they don’t give customers choice.
 
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