Who is the most badass?!
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The Changelings can already do anything a T-1000 can. No need for add-ons.I included the Dominion because they where a big enemy in DS9, but I think we can all agree Borg and Species 8472 will smack the s..t out of them
which brings me to the assimilated changelings. That would be pretty cool. T-1000
Borg initially, then the Dominion. Borg just wind up emasculated being lead by an inept dominatrix. By the second part of Scorpion Species 8472 aren't all they are cracked up to be either.
Just because Species 8472 are now vulnerable to nanoprobes doesn't mean they are not a threat anymore.
Playing field is leveled but Species 8472 is highly intelligent and advanced.
Also I don't think Borg can be emasculated since they don't reproduce by sex so there are really no genders.
Anyway are you some kind of sad and lonely women hater. maybe you never had sex.
The Borg almost destroy Earth twice with just 2 cubes, and very well might have a 3rd time had the transwarp drive conduit not been destroyed in Voyager Endgame. The Borg were technologically superior to the Feds. If the Borg sent everything they had at Earth, it would be a short fight, and the Feds couldn't do anything about it
Dominion Technology wasn't all that more advanced than the Feds. They just had ships geared for total war, a lot of them, and were willing to die in suicide attacks. That was what overwhelmed the Feds at first, but once the wormhole was closed, the feds and allies got a handle on them.
Species 8472 basically were powerful but never threatened Earth, and ended up a big nothing in the end.
Have to go with the Borg, based on track record.
Dominion Technology wasn't all that more advanced than the Feds. They just had ships geared for total war, a lot of them, and were willing to die in suicide attacks. That was what overwhelmed the Feds at first, but once the wormhole was closed, the feds and allies got a handle on them.
Species 8472 basically were powerful but never threatened Earth, and ended up a big nothing in the end.
Have to go with the Borg, based on track record.
Borg. I think just because of the way they are depicted in FC.
? LOL, with brazen comments like that you'll not last long here...
Dominion, because they just keep coming.
I thought that Changelings can't be assimilated
I thought that Changelings can't be assimilated
It's bad practice to post while tripping, feller.
Dominion.
The Borg were left without much sense of menace by the end of VOY--they were definitely an enemy that was better the less we saw of them.
The Dominion on the other hand fought a brutal war against three of the major powers of the Alpha/Beta Quadrants with only a fraction of their overall resources. Plus the relentless Jem'Hadar, sly Vorta and paranoia of the manipulative Changelings all made the Dominion a diverse force/threat.
The Borg were left without much sense of menace by the end of VOY--they were definitely an enemy that was better the less we saw of them.
The Dominion on the other hand fought a brutal war against three of the major powers of the Alpha/Beta Quadrants with only a fraction of their overall resources. Plus the relentless Jem'Hadar, sly Vorta and paranoia of the manipulative Changelings all made the Dominion a diverse force/threat.
So Seven is gender neutral? So were those Borg airbags they implanted in its chest?
Not seeing how you come to that conclusion.
The borg swing like a pendulum. One minute they are a threat, the next they are all nobbled when one of them catches the Federation flu. Then back to being a threat again.
8472. Death star level bolts whenever they need them and smaller ones that can take out Borg cubes. Goodbye Great Link.
Changelings would recover from a liquid nitrogen shower?
The Changelings can already do anything a T-1000 can. No need for add-ons.I included the Dominion because they where a big enemy in DS9, but I think we can all agree Borg and Species 8472 will smack the s..t out of them
which brings me to the assimilated changelings. That would be pretty cool. T-1000
Changelings would recover from a liquid nitrogen shower?
Species 8472 had all their frothy badass juice sucked dry out of them during the events of "In The Flesh." They were turned into fluffy Teddy bears with chewy soft-centres and whatever residual badassness may have been left congealed into a globule of banality and trickled like a melancholy filled tear onto the floor when one of them... actually found Chakotay attractive.
That was the final death knell.
So yeah, Dominion.
That was the final death knell.
So yeah, Dominion.
Between those I vote Species 8472 because they're the only ones whose soldiers have free will.
Badassery requires the individual's free choice to behave badassily.
Badassery requires the individual's free choice to behave badassily.
AND their information-gathering abilities are pretty stupendous. Good grief imitating someone off to the side like Boothby down to the last eyelash and mannerism?
AND if they feel they need to go the sly route rather than just blow us up real good they can infiltrate us, or maybe even the Borg disguised as Borg (although admittedly that might not fly as I suppose they couldn't be in the Collective) and who knows maybe they could even imitate Changelings (liquids) eventually.
AND I am not believing the great link wouldn't be f'd by their cells/DNA.
Both the Borg and 8472 are sprawled all over the place. Whenever the writers feel the need to have a pet borg for our heroes to cuddle, they find a way to give the borg the federation flu and viola, the whole shebang are out for the count. The Borg Queen, in her turn, spends her time drooling over JLP and touching up Data. It's not that hard to put her out for the count either.
They should've left the borg impersonal as a strict guideline. It would give them a hellish chasmatic, utterly inhuman quality that I think is somewhat lost when you give them the face of a sultry dominatrix - Alice Krige's heroic efforts notwithstanding.
8472 start off as these invincible Galaxy slaying space hornets with a zero sum dedication to exterminating all life in the Milky Way. Within not that many episodes, they wind up like the typical misunderstood but good natured Trek alien as they are seen thrashing out their issues with our heroes across the Voyager conference table. They also happen to be vulnerable to the Federation flu. So goodbye to their badassery in short order.
The Dominion are blowing up entire cities with cavalier abandon and are busy man handling their own dwindling allies as they plunge significant parts of the galaxy into some kind of armageddon. It takes a costly and SLOW invasion of THREE major powers to send them packing. That's badass and consistently badass all the way through.
They should've left the borg impersonal as a strict guideline. It would give them a hellish chasmatic, utterly inhuman quality that I think is somewhat lost when you give them the face of a sultry dominatrix - Alice Krige's heroic efforts notwithstanding.
8472 start off as these invincible Galaxy slaying space hornets with a zero sum dedication to exterminating all life in the Milky Way. Within not that many episodes, they wind up like the typical misunderstood but good natured Trek alien as they are seen thrashing out their issues with our heroes across the Voyager conference table. They also happen to be vulnerable to the Federation flu. So goodbye to their badassery in short order.
The Dominion are blowing up entire cities with cavalier abandon and are busy man handling their own dwindling allies as they plunge significant parts of the galaxy into some kind of armageddon. It takes a costly and SLOW invasion of THREE major powers to send them packing. That's badass and consistently badass all the way through.
I think it is worth noting that the Borg weren't really diminished as a threat so much as it was that Voyager had Seven and some kid Borgs assisting them with strategy, upgrades, etc. If they had not been on Voyager, I think sooner or later, the Borg would have destroyed or assimilated Voyager.
Who's the most badass? Q. Of the choices?
8472 may have the superior weaponry of the three and they had a "oh yeah, we're the best, and to prove it, we'll kill you all" attitude, which is pretty badass but after their weakness was exposed, they ran away like cowards and after that covert 8472 episode, they just gave up. That's not badass.
The Borg are a different dark sort of evil, even with those friendly Borg episodes, but they're made up mindless automatons. They do have Queen dominatrix keeping order of things with the mission statement of uniting the galaxy as one, which is badass, but the Borg as a whole are too simplistic to call badass and it's been proven time and time again that resistance is not futile. Plus with Janeway's massive blow their threat level took a serious hit.
The Dominion got my vote. They don't run from fights and if they do start to loose, they'll crash into you so both sides loose. They too want to unite the galaxy like the Borg, albeit through a different form of slavery, but they aren't made up of drones. Yeah, you could argue that the Jem Hadar and the Vorta are somewhat mindless but there are many species in the Dominion and only those who resist are met with hostility. We did see that the Cardassians, the Breen, the Bajorans, and the Romulans (until Sisko's lie) were treated with respect, well, so long as they occasionally said "the Founders are wise". Also, there is no nano flu that they're specifically weak against, nor is there a signal between all of them that could be hacked to cripple all of it.
8472 may have the superior weaponry of the three and they had a "oh yeah, we're the best, and to prove it, we'll kill you all" attitude, which is pretty badass but after their weakness was exposed, they ran away like cowards and after that covert 8472 episode, they just gave up. That's not badass.
The Borg are a different dark sort of evil, even with those friendly Borg episodes, but they're made up mindless automatons. They do have Queen dominatrix keeping order of things with the mission statement of uniting the galaxy as one, which is badass, but the Borg as a whole are too simplistic to call badass and it's been proven time and time again that resistance is not futile. Plus with Janeway's massive blow their threat level took a serious hit.
The Dominion got my vote. They don't run from fights and if they do start to loose, they'll crash into you so both sides loose. They too want to unite the galaxy like the Borg, albeit through a different form of slavery, but they aren't made up of drones. Yeah, you could argue that the Jem Hadar and the Vorta are somewhat mindless but there are many species in the Dominion and only those who resist are met with hostility. We did see that the Cardassians, the Breen, the Bajorans, and the Romulans (until Sisko's lie) were treated with respect, well, so long as they occasionally said "the Founders are wise". Also, there is no nano flu that they're specifically weak against, nor is there a signal between all of them that could be hacked to cripple all of it.
Founders do get a little of the Section 31 sniffles. But at least that's a long running process and whilst it sickens them it doesn't switch them off.
It seems with every second borg episode our heroes find a kill switch or an off switch or something of that nature. And down they go.
It seems with every second borg episode our heroes find a kill switch or an off switch or something of that nature. And down they go.
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It's bad practice to post while tripping, feller.
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