They could "reward" him by reinstating his rank, but give him a desk job.
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Ok, but Picard would be an amazing way to rehab Starfleet's image.
Star Trek Picard Season 2 The Wrath of Bureaucracy
Does that mean that Commander Phillipa Louvois come back? Finally I will get the Starfleet: JAG series I want!
JAG? That might mean my mother would actually watch Star Trek!
Mine too!
Yeah, I'm still pondering how silly that is or is not.
But, two points:
1) much of their population was saved as their empire extends beyond the homeworld. Plus, per the lit, most of their elites were among the first to be evacuated. (The hoi polloi should have voted for Bernicus T'Sandersak
)2) Romulans have a death fetish. They're not like the Klingons who dream of dying in battle and drink blood for pleasure, but they have no qualms about suicide as a way to keep a secret. The Romulan commander scuttled his ship in "Balance of Terror" rather than let it be reverse-engineered. Sela destroyed her invasion force in "Unification" rather than let it be interrogated. The squad that attacked Chateau Picard let themselves be killed to get Jurati on Picard's mission. If, as Rizzo told Hugh, the lives of trillions were at steak, including all Romulans everywhere....maybe they'd do what they thought needed to be done.
My Star Trek needs to have lengthy exposition punctuated by technobabble or I'm going to start boycotting. This far. No farther.
We need a bottle episode in which Picard, Raffi, Rios, Jurati, and Seven all sit around a table discussing options.
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Starfleet and the Federation are going to look very stupid, many of those who would get in Picards way will be far more worried about their own careers.
Some may have allied with the Commodore in supporting the ban not realising she was behind the attack on Mars, anyone that so much as smiled at the Commodore is going to be in deep shit and under investigation.
It wouldn't surprise me if they promote him straight to Commander in Chief Starfleet, the current Commander in Chief is toast and the same can be said for any Federation politicians that gained from the attacks on Mars.
They will be falling over themselves to help him to show their loyalty, assuming it all comes out which is not certain at this point, even if it doesn't come out and he agrees it needs to be buried a lot of people are going to owe him big time, if it comes out and the truth has cost Picard his life it will be even worse for them.
Like I have said before, Heads will Roll both figuratively and literally.
It is going to be very interesting to see what help Clancy sends, the strength of the force will be a good indicator of just how screwed she thinks she is.
Do not think the biggest brass will fall over backwards but heads should roll. Does anyone really want Picard to be C in C for season 2?
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That is the problem, the focus would remain on Picard but the scope of the show would expand greatly, which could then change the show to something more like what we have had in previous Star Trek series.
Which is why the truth may not come out, at this point we don't even know if the Zhat Vash story line will be resolved by the end of this season.
We are building to something but it may not be a resolution, more likely it will be a deepening of the crisis with the big bad showing up (if the Zhat Vash correctly interpreted the beacon).
If Picard is proven correct will he be given a ship and reinstated, or will he refuse and carry on with Rios and the La Sirena.
He could demand a ship and then have Rios and Raffi reinstated as commanding officers but not himself.
Jurati could act as the MD on board and Soji would be Science officer.
At this point it could go any number of ways.
Starfleet could bury much of the details.
Another Starfleet ship show would be too much like what Sir Patrick did before.
Another Starfleet ship show would be too much like what Sir Patrick did before.
Yes.
I don't. It would change the whole tenor of the show. And not in a way I'd be interested in. Star Trek: Bureaucracy is not something I want to see and I don't think it's something Picard would be interested in either.
"I'm Commander, Starfleet, so I don't break rules." That's what Marrow said in TSFS and he was right. Picard wouldn't be fighting The System, he'd be The System. He can't do whatever he wants. There are checks-and-balances. He'll be held more accountable than ever. The Federation Council would have his head on a platter if he didn't bend to their whims.
Those 14 worlds that wanted to secede from the Federation if they helped the Romulans? He'd have to weight that into consideration. He wouldn't have the luxury of doing what's right, no matter how much he wants to. What's right would be secondary to keeping Starfleet a well-oiled machine. The demands of the job and his personal convictions are not compatible.
He's not an "Admiral" type person. He only took the promotion and left the Enterprise to help in a cause. To aid the Romulans. The C-in-C can't be about one cause, one issue. He/she/it has to be holistic in their outlook. For everything. He's not the person for that job. That's why he resisted for being an Admiral all these years.
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Kirk couldn't tolerate being a deskbound paper-pusher for more than 2-1/2 years before pulling the strings to get the Enterprise back and accepting a rank reduction to Captain. To be fair Kirk was far more adrenaline-oriented and felt at home being a cowboy enforcing Federation values in unexplored space but even Picard would bristle at being deskbound and beholden to the bureaucracy he'd spent years loathing and even fighting against.
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Just imagine if Picard had gained an earlier promotion to Admiral and gone straight for the Commander in Chief position instead, would the Mars attack still have happened, would the Romulans have been saved.
Its all very well leaving it for other shoes to fill but you then take the risk that the wrong person ends up in that position instead.
If you want something done right you have to be willing to do it yourself.
I always saw Picard as the ideal Commander in Chief of Starfleet, never got that vibe from Kirk even though it wouldn't surprise me if he was offered it and turned it down.
Its all very well leaving it for other shoes to fill but you then take the risk that the wrong person ends up in that position instead.
If you want something done right you have to be willing to do it yourself.
I always saw Picard as the ideal Commander in Chief of Starfleet, never got that vibe from Kirk even though it wouldn't surprise me if he was offered it and turned it down.
Post Nemesis Picard as C in C, maybe. Now not at all.
I think Picard has the introspective nature to be a good C-i-C. I think that he could step in to that role and take in the bigger picture now, especially after the lessons learned, and approach it more positively.
While I'm sure many would be bored by such an approach I think Picard as the chief is a distinct possibility, even if it wouldn't make for good TV.
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It would only make sense at the end of the series though, assuming he doesn't die and after he has handed over the reins or setup whatever spin off they have planned.
That way he can still be in it every now and then without it being all about him.
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