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Where is your confidence level now with ST:Dis?

My confidence level for Discovery is fairly high. I wasn't bothered by Fuller stepping down, and the little production video was cool. I'm more then ready for more Trek, and I think Discovery could be very good.
 
That's literally the motivation that sets most episodes in motion.

It would be interesting if someone broke this down. Because I'm betting that it wasn't the motivation that set most episodes in motion. The very first broadcast episode ("The Man Trap") didn't have the unknown as the motivation, Kirk and crew were doing medical check-ups on archeologists. So much of the show revolved more around them being the police/coast guard than explorers.
 
They also went around securing mining rights and planets in strategic locations.

As for new life and civilizations, they were rather quick to impose their own values on other cultures. Meyer described TOS as consisting of gunboat diplomacy where the Federation/Americans were right and aliens were "lesser breeds".

It'll be interesting to see if that is referenced in Discovery, as it was in TUC.
 
I have to adjust my confidence level statement. After seeing the horror movie klingons, consider my confidence level completely tanked. I'll obviously still hope its good, but I won't be surprised if it ends up being the worst ST series. It has the worst version of klingons at the very least.
 
Seeing them forge ahead with their own thing is increasing my confidence level, all of the uncertainty was getting tiring with the fandom going back and forwards. My only real annoyance is not liking the design of the ship at this point, I know that's just me and most people won't be worried, unless that turns out to look a llot different too.

13 episodes with this amount of effort means we'll have a great looking, hopefully much better written series of stories than we've gotten in a very long time (television wise).
 
Confidence continues to rise - the new Klingons only help.

I like the Klingons, not sold on that Klingon ship. Something I will probably have to wait until I see it in motion to make a determination one way or the other.
 
13 episodes with this amount of effort means we'll have a great looking, hopefully much better written series of stories than we've gotten in a very long time (television wise).

I'm actually happy about the length of the season. With 13 I HOPE there will not be a need for any filler episodes........hit the ground FAST and just build every week till the season finale!
 
Exactly.

13 means you better deliver, no filler, no bullshit, keep the babble out of it altogether. These are highly trained people who know what everything is and how it works. They're not all scientists, but the ones onboard the ship who are, they trust to just shut up and get the job done, it's why they signed on and got the assignment.

We're going to get generally arc based, focused writing that has an end goal, cutting out 80% of what Trek relied on to pad out the story. That alone should be a huge improvement over...everything after TOS.
 
The Usual Gang of Facebook Twats are highly indignant that most of us on TrekBBS seem to like the new Klingon look - I don't know how they're doing their head counting - and so are proclaiming once again that TrekBBS and all of us are being paid by Les Moonves. :lol:

There could be cardiac misadventures in some FB groups. That would be a shame. :(
 
The Usual Gang of Facebook Twats are highly indignant that most of us on TrekBBS seem to like the new Klingon look - I don't know how they're doing their head counting - and so are proclaiming once again that TrekBBS and all of us are being paid by Les Moonves. :lol:

There could be cardiac misadventures in some FB groups. That would be a shame. :(
Between the Bad Robot checks for Star Trek Beyond, the CBS checks for the Axanar debacle and now these Discovery checks from Les himself, we're all raking it in!
 
It would be interesting if someone broke this down. Because I'm betting that it wasn't the motivation that set most episodes in motion. The very first broadcast episode ("The Man Trap") didn't have the unknown as the motivation, Kirk and crew were doing medical check-ups on archeologists. So much of the show revolved more around them being the police/coast guard than explorers.

Here ya go:


Let's look at the first 10 episodes of season 3, shall we:

Evolution - begins with the Enterprise observing a red giant, plot set in motion by a science experiment
The Ensigns of Command - a diplomacy mission
The Survivors - answering a distress call, research for the strange phenomena
Who Watches the Watchers - literally about doing research on indigenous people
The Bonding - plot set in motion by an exploration mission on a planet
Booby Trap - Enterprise doing research of old asteroid relics
The enemy - Enterprise answers a distress call
The price - the auction of a wormhole - that is important because it leads to new exploration in the Delta Quadrant (but is mostly a diplomacy mission - I give you that)
The Vengeance Factor - a diplomacy mission
The Defector - a diplomacy mission

Out of the first 10 episodes of Season 3, there are two episoded starting with the Enterprise answering a distress call and four diplomacy missions. The other four episodes (five, if you count the wormhole) have plots that are either directly set in motion or set during the Enterprise doing scientific exploration and discovery.

Yeah, there are rarely plots about people wandering around and drawing maps. Where is the plot in that? But as it stands - doing scientific research, exploration and discovery - is the main motivation for our heroes in about half the episodes. Not even counting those where they research the situation after a distress call. As I see it, "discovery and exploration" has a big part in that season. As it has and always had in all of Star Trek...

It was just one page back;)
 
My confidence level is low, not because of anything that's been shown so far. I just get the feeling that CBS will see all the whining and lose confidence in the show. They may start to worry and not want to "waste" money on it.
 
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