WHen will you watch Discovery? Will you get All Access?

[Balok's Decoy]

What a stupid, stupid post.

I'm not trying to be insulting at all, but honest question: Do you live on your own and pay your own bills? Because for most people, TV service costs anywhere between $70 to over $200 depending on your channel package and video quality. I'm genuinely confused, not trying to be a jerk here at all. Are we talking about something altogether different?

EDIT: The whole reason I don't have tv and just pay for streaming services is that tv is way too expensive.

 

[JWPlatt]

I get internet service and two phone lines for $100 monthly and Amazon Prime (no commercials) annually, mostly for shipping cost savings and speed. I don't subscribe to cable TV. I own my modem and router to avoid recurring rental thievery. There's no set-top box because I have no TV service, again to avoid recurring charges. I have a Roku - a one-time cost. Roku does not have my credit card info, which avoids all premium options there. Nothing else gets my dollars except physical home media - a one-time cost per disc. Some of that media comes with a UV code which I use freely through Vudu on the Roku. Additionally, Plex with friends through the Roku provides substantial content.

CBSAA is extra, recurring and includes commercials, thus I won't subscribe. Broadcast TV is free with commercials and requires no coax or fiber infrastructure, incurring no charges at all - unless you pedantically include the one-time cost of the display.

 

[Balok's Decoy]

Broadcast TV is free with commercials and requires no coax or fiber infrastructure, incurring no charges at all - unless you pedantically include the one-time cost of the display.

Broadcast tv is not free. You have to pay a fee every month for the service plus rental for the cable box. Why do you think broadcast tv is free? I'm not talking about the cost for "display" (like the tv itself? the monitor???) I'm talking about the monthly fee you pay for the service of having channels delivered to your cable box. I'm still confused why you think tv is free. I'm not being a pedant, I'm being...you know...a human being...who pays bills...and doesn't have tv because it costs actual human currency to have....

 

[JWPlatt]

I see. Go learn what "broadcast" means.

 

[Balok's Decoy]

I see. Go learn what "broadcast" means.

You mean like get in a time machine and go back to 1955 and get rabbit ears for my tv?

EDIT: Seriously though, who actually gets their tv via broadcast? I mean, you CAN, but that's not what anyone means when they talk about tv service or the cost of tv because literally nobody bothers with it.

 

[JWPlatt]

No. You don't know that TV is still broadcast? In HD? Perhaps a better education about technology and your options would save you some money on those bills. Not subscribing to CBSAA would be a start if it's a concern.

 

[Balok's Decoy]

No. You don't know that TV is still broadcast? In HD? Perhaps a better education about technology and your options would save you some money on those bills. Not subscribing to CBSAA would be a start if it's a concern.

Sorry, I think we were talking across each other. When people talk about tv, I never think they're talking about broadcast tv. I don't know anyone who gets tv that way. I'm only aware of people using cable boxes. Do people seriously still use that?

 

[JWPlatt]

That's why I wrote "broadcast TV" which you refused to understand until just now.

Yes, people seriously use broadcast TV.

 

[BillJ]

That's why I wrote "broadcast TV" which you refused to understand until just now.

Yes, people seriously use broadcast TV.

To be fair, not everyone is in the US.

 

[Balok's Decoy]

To be fair, not everyone is in the US.

Yeah.

I mean, I live in the states (didn't grow up here though). But I just have never heard of anyone getting tv that way anymore. Maybe my under 30 is showing?

 

[dahj]

To be fair, not everyone is in the US.

Free broadcast TV is a US thing though, in most of Europe you have to pay a TV licence(that's used to fund public broadcasting).

 

[Apparition B5]

Dish Network is expected to release a device for people's televisions which combines over-the-air broadcast television channels with their Sling TV streaming service in a couple of months, so yep it's a thing. I've considered it myself, but I live in a condominium so outside antennas are a huge no-no. So I just strictly stream.

 

[cylkoth]

Sorry, I think we were talking across each other. When people talk about tv, I never think they're talking about broadcast tv. I don't know anyone who gets tv that way. I'm only aware of people using cable boxes. Do people seriously still use that?

At least 13 million households still depend on over the air, broadcast tv. Here is some useful information published back in March.

 

[Balok's Decoy]

At least 13 million households still depend on over the air, broadcast tv. Here is some useful information published back in March.

In a country of over 320 million people, 13 million is practically an outlier.

 

[JWPlatt]

To circle around and summarize, broadcast TV was merely my example of free TV with commercials - a model I find acceptable (until it crosses into the Intolerable Zone at which time I just wait for the physical home media). Unlike CBSAA, for which you pay a recurring cost AND watch commercials, which I do not accept and will not subscribe. Amazon Prime, to which I exclusively subscribe, is an example of a bundled service that has no commercials. I pay that recurring cost because my primary concern is shipping costs and speed. I'm much more interested and motivated in keeping my costs low and eliminating recurring costs after the essential internet service and one-time purchases of devices to access and experience content. I believe there are sufficient people like me that CBS will eventually adjust or alter the structure of CBSAA and 3rd party contracts.

 

[Morpheus 02]

In a country of over 320 million people, 13 million is practically an outlier.

But probably a much bigger outlier than CBDAA subscribers will ever be

 

[JWPlatt]

But probably a much bigger outlier than CBDAA subscribers will ever be

Your wording is ambiguous, but I think you mean less of outlier with more users of broadcast TV than subscribers of CBSAA. Yes? A bold claim, but paying for commercials sucks, so maybe. How many subscribe to Hulu? What is the retention rate? And how many people will actually tolerate signups to multiple services using the fee-for-commercials model?

 

[Balok's Decoy]

I think it's more useful to look at the proportion of people who are leaving traditional tv models, broadcast or cable, and the surge of people subscribing to streaming services generally. CBSAA is joining a growing market. Traditional tv, however you want to look at it, is gradually moving toward obsolescence.

 

[JWPlatt]

Streaming is the future, but remote and rural locations are left behind when the install costs for the service company is not worth the limited revenue from just a few people. They and those who can't afford the service use broadcast. People who can afford at least $100 monthly seem to erase from their thinking that there are millions who must choose between such luxuries or food, shelter, and electric.

CBSAA is joining a market and getting it wrong in a narcissistic, corporate suit manner by making it more about what they want.

 

[BillJ]

Streaming is the future, but remote and rural locations are left behind. They and those who can't afford the service use broadcast. People who can afford at least $100 monthly seem to erase from their thinking that there are millions who must choose between such luxuries or food, shelter, and electric.

It has always been this way. There are pockets of the country still not wired for cable TV.

CBSAA is joining a market and getting it wrong in a narcissistic, corporate suit manner by making it more about what they want.

CBS job is to make money for their shareholders. Been that way for as long as they've existed. Putting Trek on free TV just so it can be cancelled after 13 episodes does nothing for either the fans nor shareholders.