IM$O, she is not getting any high rank soon. Maybe Captain later in the series
In The novelsRoe Laren was a mutineer and she becomes captain of DS9 in the Litverse.
Isn't Disc supposed to be centered around Burnham's viewpoint? If so, then she obviously has to play a major role going forward.
Actually I like her character a lot. She's supposed to be a emotionless Vulcan. She's had to adapt to the foreign concept of human emotions. Unless Spock, she's tried to embrace her emotions. But she's still very stilted. With each episode you can see her opening up though. So I think her character is being played just right.So far Burnhum is my least favorite character.
e.g., Spock in The MenagerieI'd say - never. After the war, maybe she gets her sentence commuted, but she did openly mutiny, so she should be out of Starfleet.
e.g., Spock in The Menagerie
He still committed mutiny and Starfleet let him off the hook. Whether someone is convicted or not of a crime, special storytelling circumstances have gotten characters off the hook before. See also: Ro Laren, Sito Jaxa, and Tom Paris (not all these folks were mutineers, but they did commit "throw you out of Starfleet and/or in jail offenses").Spock was never convicted though. Of course that was only the case because Kirk, and the Commodore decided to look the other way.
Technically he was never court marshaled or charged. <--- That (and Commodore Mendez in the shuttle with Kirk and on the 1701 were all an illusion by the Talosians The only thing Starfleet has on record RE: the incident:e.g., Spock in The Menagerie
UHURA [OC]: Message from Starbase Eleven, sir. Received images from Talos Four. In view of historic importance of Captain Pike in space exploration, General Order Seven prohibiting contact Talos Four is suspended this occasion. No action contemplated against Spock. Proceed as you think best. Signed, Mendez, J.I., Commodore, Starbase Eleven.
Technically he was never court marshaled or charged. <--- That (and Commodore Mendez in the shuttle with Kirk and on the 1701 were all an illusion by the Talosians The only thing Starfleet has on record RE: the incident:
My point above, simply stated, is that Starfleet has a history of leniency if the storytelling circumstances are right. Whether it makes "sense" or not is a different question than whether there's precedent in Trek for it (which there is).He still committed mutiny and Starfleet let him off the hook. Whether someone is convicted or not of a crime, special storytelling circumstances have gotten characters off the hook before. See also: Ro Laren, Sito Jaxa, and Tom Paris (not all these folks were mutineers, but they did commit "throw you out of Starfleet and/or in jail offenses").
He still committed mutiny and Starfleet let him off the hook. Whether someone is convicted or not of a crime, special storytelling circumstances have gotten characters off the hook before. See also: Ro Laren, Sito Jaxa, and Tom Paris (not all these folks were mutineers, but they did commit "throw you out of Starfleet and/or in jail offenses").
There was a Commodore in the room. According to the letter of the law, regardless of Spock's good intentions, the Commodore ought to have been like, "Well that's nice of you," and then hauled Spock back to Starfleet for court martial. But he didn't. They let it slide. And that's really the point. Starfleet lets things go. Like all the time.The question is if Starfleet ever officially took note of Spock's actions?
There was a Commodore in the room.
(Source: chakoteya.net)Uhura said:Message from Starbase Eleven, sir. Received images from Talos Four. In view of historic importance of Captain Pike in space exploration, General Order Seven prohibiting contact Talos Four is suspended this occasion. No action contemplated against Spock. Proceed as you think best. Signed, Mendez, J.I., Commodore, Starbase Eleven.
That's true and a good point. But Mendez was at Starbase 11 and was aware of the Enterprise's incursion into Talos IV space and gave authorization to allow it, and mentions that Starfleet won't press charges against Spock. Starfleet brass was aware of Spock's mutiny.As the CBS Plant pointed out, the Commodore was an illusion as well. I had also forgotten that bit in the years since I have last seen The Menagerie.
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