When did you know Enterprise was YOUR Trek?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Enterprise' started by Blooded, Jan 14, 2020.

  1. JLBTucker

    JLBTucker Commander Red Shirt

    Jan 2, 2020
    TOS is always strange to me, it's the one i watch the least because its just very different from the rest and its a show I respect the importance of more than I like
  2. Damian

    Damian Commodore Commodore

    Nov 2, 2017
    United States
    I liked Enterprise through its run. I kind of wish the first two seasons were a bit more like season 4 (sometimes it seemed like they were more a prequel to TNG than the original series). But it got better. There were some great episodes of season 1 and 2, but like all the spin-offs it seemed to take a year or so to get it together.

    Season 3 was a huge change for Berman era Trek and in many ways foreshadowed current Trek in that it was serialized like Discovery is. Even Season 4, while broken down a bit more, was more serialized as well.

    I enjoyed most of Season 3. And I actually liked the change in Archer's character. He obviously did things he wasn't proud of--which isn't really what I'm talking about. What I mean is he matured a lot that year. He realized there was some wisdom in being more cautious as well as the wisdom at least at times of non-interference. And a lot of the other characters grew as well.

    Season 4 is when it really hit it's stride though. It's a shame the show didn't continue.
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  3. Roundabout

    Roundabout Commander Red Shirt

    Mar 19, 2018
    I had lost interest in Trek for a long period of time. Hardly watched ENT when it originally aired.

    I got interested again a few years ago. About that time, I was surprised when I discovered that Trek actually came up with an in-universe explanation for the Klingon's change of appearance. I found the explanation fascinating.

    I then became aware that the in-universe explanation was revealed in the ENT episodes "Divergence" and "Affliction". I had to watch them, so I saw both episodes when they were shown on H&I, but did not plan on watching any other ENT episode. But I really liked what I saw. Not only did I like the specific story about the Klingons, I also liked the show's cast and the show's aesthetic.

    So I decided to watch the 2 "In a Mirror, Darkly" episodes. I was really impressed, especially because of how "In a Mirror, Darkly" cleverly tied in to the TOS aesthetic. Then a few nights later, I watched "Broken Bow", which is the best Trek series premiere imho, and I got hooked.
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  4. sekundant

    sekundant Fleet Captain Premium Member

    Jun 27, 2018
    I am sure that I have told this before..
    Trek was always present in my childhood, thanks to mama. I think my first crush was Spock (and after him all my crushes have some common characterizations like intelligent and being brutally honest :p ).
    As I start the university at a foreign country, ENT was at the end of season one at there and it was synchronized (and sounded horrible :ack:). Then a rough time like a tsunami crashed over me. I think everyone has such "Murphy's law" phase in his/her life, I became personification of misfortune within a couple of weeks. My answer was "to define priorities, focus on them and skip everything without exception which wouldn't help". At that point ENT was middle of the second season and I remember to watch "Vanishing Point", "Precious Cargo" and "Dawn". Uninspired, badly made remarks, too much lost opportunities. :censored: I was done with ENT and more than this with Trek.

    For three or four years I had a feeling that me as a citizen didn't take seriously by politicians/ngo's /intellectuals from all colors. Polarizing goes through all the countries and cultures, reason is killed by lobbies/interests. I was really disappointed and felt too tired. Then I began to read/watch biographies of great "Age of Enlightenment" characters for the inspiration. At the same time I tried to understand how art handled with the issue. How they answer the question, how will the humanity overcome with those stupid issues, how they imagine that we become mature? I read too much, watch too much..Then ENT was there (if you can call a commercial TV show as art. )..

    I have to admit, I couldn't find too much answers or practical tips. Nevertheless, I enjoy their hopeful attitude, nativity, courage to self critic, rebelling against status quo and protecting dignity. Even the darkest third season has always something to do with rejecting to fail and fighting with your own devils. All those things were always issue of Trek but I didn't like too much TNG's ethic superiority and DS9's superficiality.

    TOS was/ is/ will be always something special for me, but ENT is my Trek. :adore:
  5. 1987SpaceGuy

    1987SpaceGuy Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Dec 27, 2019
    • childhood hero (Scott Bakula, Quantum Leap) as Captain.
    • NASA-esque design (blue jumpsuits, nuts & bolts, submarine/ISS interior)
    • the Andorian Incident (& Shran)
  6. SCE2Aux

    SCE2Aux Commander Red Shirt

    Jan 16, 2018
    It's not my favourite series, but my opinion of it has radically altered over the last few years. I was 17 when the show first came out, and I was in many way a stereotypical cynical teen. I didn't evaluate the show on its own terms, and instead complained about all the things that I thought it should be. To my regret, I was the worst sort of whiny, proprietorial 'fan'.

    Lately though, I have been rewatching all of Star Trek via Netflix, and have come to enjoy a lot of Enterprise, if not all of it.

    I find the crew likeable and very relatable - unsurprising considering they are closest to our time period out of all the Trek shows. I love the movie nights and baseball caps - small touches like that go a long way.

    Even when the show was utilising a well worn Trek plot, the show had a unique vibe that came from the fact that the crew weren't experienced explorers, at least not initially. I also like that the NX-01 is clearly inferior to many of the ships it encounters.

    The show is extremely well thought out, visually. The exterior looks primitive and metallic. There are tons of little details on the cg model that give it a cool mechanical look. The interiors, if anything are even better. As has been mentioned, they have a submarine/ISS mashup sort of vibe, which is perfect for the period. Same goes for the uniforms, which might just be my favourite of all the Trek series.

    The Xindi arc worked well, and gave rise to new storytelling possibilities and character growth.

    T'Pol is my second favourite Vulcan after Spock. I think she's a brilliant character.

    Season 4 tied the show nicely into the wider Star Trek universe. Some people find it too fan-service-y, but I love all the little nods to other shows, and never found it intrusive to the plotlines.

    I have a lot of time for Enterprise, and find it extremely watchable. :bolian:
  7. Merlyn Emerald

    Merlyn Emerald Ensign Red Shirt

    Nov 17, 2019
    Immediately after the first viewing of the first episode! ENT instantly won my sympathy, and later my love. First of all, the cast of the series seemed very nice to me personally, I saw something of my own in them, something in common... Captain Archer is more understandable than all other Star Trek captains. More... simple, perhaps. Hoshi, Malcolm are very cute guys. T'Pol is a great character, an unusual Vulcan and... Vulcan, and I hold them in high esteem. And I liked the Vulcans of this time period much more. Just affects the time period of events of the series - 2151 is not as far as it may seem. And until 2063 - ah, the possible first contact with the space elves - many of us will even be able to live. :)

    I think a little offhand. TOS - too old series with funny and ridiculous graphics, none of the crew did not catch my feelings. TNG - the crew also did not catch the feelings, and in my opinion, the series itself is too abstruse, besides, the 24th century is already too unattainable. VOY and DSN - without comments, even more distant series, where I did not find anything native in the crews... :weep:

    ENT evokes a feeling of warmth, and the NX-01 crew is like family, which is a very important feeling. It is a pity that the series was closed, but at the same time - many thanks to the creators for what they just created this series. ;)

    Once I found such a statement on a site with fan confessions. "Enterprise" made me sympathize with its characters much more than in the rest of the Trek. When one of them is sick, happy, or upset, I share these feelings with them. And I'll sign every word. :luvlove:
  8. Winterwind

    Winterwind Commodore Commodore

    Feb 11, 2007
    London, Canada
    I grew up watching TOS in reruns (and used to tape them on a Betamax!). I watched TNG, DS9 and VOY first run but for some reason, ENT just felt like "my" Star Trek. I didn't care for the pilot and the quick trip around the block to take Klang home but I connected with the characters of Trip, T'Pol and Malcolm as the series went on.

    I love various characters from the other shows, except TNG where none of the characters really appealed to me, but ENT just worked for me on some level
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  9. TheEvilDM

    TheEvilDM Ensign Red Shirt

    Feb 24, 2020
    Death Valley, Texas
    while a major fan of TOS and Kirk, I loved Enterprise from the start. Why? I looked at this way in my head.. "this technology looks very obtainable in the next 50 years that I MIGHT be able to see these things" -- I know its kind of silly, but that's how I looked at it
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  10. Boris Skrbic

    Boris Skrbic Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Dec 14, 2010
    Enterprise was never, nor will it ever be ”my Trek” (though Season 3 was pretty good, actually).
  11. Merlyn Emerald

    Merlyn Emerald Ensign Red Shirt

    Nov 17, 2019
    ENT series is very nice and warm. And with your words I would describe this pathetic Discovery - it's definitely not a Trek!
  12. Boris Skrbic

    Boris Skrbic Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Dec 14, 2010
    I’d rather not spoil Season 3 for you.

    I’d brush up on the difference between Trek and ”my Trek”.
  13. Admiral Picard

    Admiral Picard Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Jan 9, 2020
    I am still interested in the proposed 5th season episode where they were going to introduce the origin of the Borg Queen. It might would have changed a lot to the history of the collective, and it would have been contradictory to the established saying that the Borg are a several thousand years old species. But the first Borg Queen could have been a later product first introduced to the collective in the 22nd century. That's why the Borg are so interested in humanity.
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  14. Gordie

    Gordie Captain Captain

    Mar 15, 2020
    Archer wasn't really what I considered Captain material, but the first two seasons of Enterprise is some of my favorite Trek.
  15. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

    May 10, 2005
    The visitor's bullpen
    "In A Mirror, Darkly". That was the tipping point.

    After I saw that, I knew ENT would be my favorite Trek series.
  16. JohnR

    JohnR Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

    Oct 11, 2017
    I am one of the very rare people who liked the leisurely pattern of the first two years. I just rewatched Season 1, Episode 9. Nothing too much, they find a freighter that captured a Nausicaan, the Enterprise eventually squeezes the freighter to give him up in exchange. It feels realistic, which I know is ridiculous but it makes sense to me. I am happy watching everyday stuff, especially for a ship new to its business. Not everything has to be Doctor Who the universe will end unless we stop it. I don't need arcs, either. Not that I mind them, but I don't need that.
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  17. Tim Walker

    Tim Walker Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Aug 8, 2014
    That the ships of other races were superior...made the NX-01 an underdog of a hero ship. Made humans a potentially underdog race.
  18. Long Syntax

    Long Syntax Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Apr 22, 2015
    First episode, as its airing coincided with a culmination of a quite a few life triumphs at the time. However even without that happy coincidence I suspect it would have been my favorite of the franchise due to the great cast.

    Man I miss ENT.
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  19. Captain pl1ngpl0ng

    Captain pl1ngpl0ng Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Oct 10, 2017
    out there...
    a favourite of mine, me and my kids watched it a lot when they was younger
    so it will allways be special.