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When did the TOS crew die?

Or at least a line of dialogue addressing that however unconventional it was, everything they have been through showed them life is short, family is important, and that it was a choice they were actively making.... Kirk making a joke at Spock about their being two Captains on board, with Spock reiterating he never sought the center seat, that he is right where he belongs.... Sulu saying he can delay his own captaincy just a little bit more....Chekov joking that being first officer isn't all it's cracked up to be.... Maybe I'm a doctor, not a bridge officer....an aye Captain out of Scotty.... As they all choose their nontraditional path, together, for one more round....as a unit.
 
It's crazy. There's a lot to be said for letting TOS be its own thing. You can say "Happy endings are just stories that haven't finished yet," but we need some happy endings and young heroes.
Which is why TOS is always its own thing for me. The rest are nice spin off tales, but TOS stands apart. It doesn't need to connect, doesn't need any more material; it just is. Star Wars the original film, and then the original trilogy, are the same for me. The rest are just OK.
 
Which is why TOS is always its own thing for me. The rest are nice spin off tales, but TOS stands apart. It doesn't need to connect, doesn't need any more material; it just is. Star Wars the original film, and then the original trilogy, are the same for me. The rest are just OK.

Yeah, except the many times when TOS contradicts itself.
 
I don't think they name ships after people still alive and even so, what had Chekov done that was so extraordinary as to deserve having a ship named after him?

Chekov became Grand Admiral of the Fleet, according to the Shatnerverse novels, or even President of the Federation, according to the Autobiography-verse. At the very least, the last time we saw him, he was a highly decorated 48-year-old Commander recognized as one of the martyred Captain Kirk's right hand mans. Other than Sulu, he was probably the most senior of the Enterprise's senior staff (Uhura never reaching an XO post AFAWK) in Starfleet service, and surely in for a command by 2293. His history beyond that year is unwritten (by canon), but the starship named after him points to some remarkable events.
 
Chekov became Grand Admiral of the Fleet, according to the Shatnerverse novels, or even President of the Federation, according to the Autobiography-verse. At the very least, the last time we saw him, he was a highly decorated 48-year-old Commander recognized as one of the martyred Captain Kirk's right hand mans. Other than Sulu, he was probably the most senior of the Enterprise's senior staff (Uhura never reaching an XO post AFAWK) in Starfleet service, and surely in for a command by 2293. His history beyond that year is unwritten (by canon), but the starship named after him points to some remarkable events.

Whatever inspired all of that, I don't think it was Walter's on screen persona.
 
New theory. Scotty is a immortal like Flint in that TOS episode. Not only that but he doesn't find out until he dies and comes back in post TNG time. At some point Duncan McCloud shows up to train him to fight with a sword. Their can only be one and now he has a new type of life to live. Why he is still alive even in Discovery time.
 
New theory. Scotty is a immortal like Flint in that TOS episode. Not only that but he doesn't find out until he dies and comes back in post TNG time. At some point Duncan McCloud shows up to train him to fight with a sword. Their can only be one and now he has a new type of life to live. Why he is still alive even in Discovery time.

Simon Pegg and James Doohan meet on a cloudy hill, as the fog rolls in.

"There can be only one," says Pegg, in an over-the-top Scottish brogue.

"Aye, laddie," replies Doohan, succinctly, in his own obviously fake accent.
 
According to the various beta canon they're all alive into at least the 2370s (Kirk and McCoy last seen in the Shatnerverse, Scotty in SCE, Sulu in a DS9 novel, Uhura and Checkov in Renegades). The only death we know of is Spock in Beyond.
 
When I think about it I think Spock could in theory not have died in Beyond. I mean their is no reason why Spock would have that future pic with him when he traveled back in time. Perhaps Kirk or someone figured out how to bring him back to the Prime Universe and Spock left a picture behind so Kelvinvese Spock would see it to better appreciate his own crew.
 
Whatever inspired all of that, I don't think it was Walter's on screen persona.
:beer: Frigging seriously. Imagine if Star Trek came and went like every other SF show of the decade, only beloved by fans of the era and nostalgia. Where all you do is talk on Facebook groups and write fan fiction stories. Without decades of conventions, films and over the top fan adoration, how would the supporting crew be seen? Much like the stories written about the Seaview crew, maybe one or two would have gotten some extra responsibilities to flash them out, but Chekov would still be claiming shit was being invented in Russia. And there wouldn't be a single novel outside of a couple of Bantam tie ins.
 
Then TVH ruined it. When Kirk got his Captain rank back and a new ship, the rest of the crew just got shoved into the mix as if "naturally we don't want our own careers!" That's actually the decision I hated.

Part of me agrees with this. A good friend of mine, with a PhD in Organizational Psychology, would agree with it completely. He always argues with me that, if they had a single crew which was that successful, once the 5 year mission was over they should all be assigned to the Academy to teach all the cadets how to be that successful as well. My counter is that 1) they may not know exactly how they were that successful, and 2) their success may have been in large part due to their interlocking abilities when working together. Point 2 is, I suppose, another way of expressing the old saw that the Enterprise was the only ship to survive the mission (another idea I don't particularly like).

All that said, I do think the crew should have been split up. It would have made much more sense.
 
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When I think about it I think Spock could in theory not have died in Beyond.
He travelled across time AND alternate realities. According to Kovich that should mean he was doomed, eventually. If the same thing happened to him that befell Yor, it would have been horrible.

(though it took its sweet time in not killing the crew of the Romulan mining ship, now I think about it)
 
I like to think the Entreprise mysriously disappeared at the end of Undiscovered Country through a wormhole and I'm just ignoring nuTrek and Generations and that stuff with Spock in TNG.
 
I like to think the Entreprise mysriously disappeared at the end of Undiscovered Country through a wormhole and I'm just ignoring nuTrek and Generations and that stuff with Spock in TNG.

I've come to a similar conclusion. The only reality is TOS, and everything else is something vaguely related to TOS :-)
 
He travelled across time AND alternate realities. According to Kovich that should mean he was doomed, eventually. If the same thing happened to him that befell Yor, it would have been horrible.

(though it took its sweet time in not killing the crew of the Romulan mining ship, now I think about it)
Kovich did remark that it wasn't just the crossing parallel dimensions but also the separation in time that made it more acute, i.e. the further away he was from his home time in the parallel universe.
 
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