If he was born in 2237 as the official source put it, he'd be 107 in 2344. Considering McCoy was still alive in 2363, it's not a far stretch.
When did the TOS crew die?
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If he was born in 2237 as the official source put it, he'd be 107 in 2344. Considering McCoy was still alive in 2363, it's not a far stretch.
You know since Jeanne Calment has pretty much been proven to be a fraud, the verifiably oldest person in the world at any given time since about sixty years ago has never been more than 119. In sixty years that limit has never been surpassed in spite of the average lifespan constantly increasing during those years.
It's possible that no one will ever live longer than that, just as there is a limit to how fast a man can run or how high he can jump.
But it's the 24th century in a fictional sc-fi universe. Anything's possible.
Yes, my comment is kinda irrelevant but I just read a lengthy article about the subject and thought it worth mentioning. Basically, the conclusion is that unless we find new radical ways to prolong human life the limit of 119 will likely never be surpassed and it's also possible that even if we could live longer our brains will fail anyway and we would basically become very very old vegetables.
I have no doubts that humanity will try. As a species determination and fear of death runs very deep. Saying "Well, 119 is good enough" simply is not going to cut it for many.
What do you mean by saying about the age of 119 that: "n sixty years that limit has never been surpassed in spite of the average lifespan constantly increasing during those years."
Sarah Knauss died at the age of 119 years and 97 days on 30 December 1999, So that is only 20 years, 10 months, and 18 days before today, which is November 17, 2021 in EST. The record age of 119 has only existed for 20 years, not for 60 years.
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What I mean is that reliable record-keeping of people's dates of birth has allowed us to know who and how old the oldest people in the world (most likely) was for about sixty years and in all that time the age of 119 has never been surpassed even though it's been approached many times.
But even twenty years is quite a long time for such a record to hold given that the average life expectancy has constantly increased during that time.
That means that even though the average person lives longer and longer, the oldest remains pretty much the same.
And it seems O'Brien thinks 140 is somewhat realistic but near the upper end, as he considers that a desirable age to die in "To the Death". So while anything past 100 might be geriatric in absence of contrary evidence, 107 being "extremely old" would not hold true as such.
As regards that evidence, McCoy had seen a lot, and might be exceptionally decrepit for a man of his age for all we know; perhaps humans do die at 140 but generally leave behind beautiful and well-working bodies, it being something else that fails (brain, pagh, social support and free lunches)?
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As far as I am concerned, we know a slight bit more - I take things with the OG actors as canon, regardless if they are official productions, so IMO, Gods and Men gives us a bit of Uhura's path, and Renegades gives us part of Chekov's.
Could Scotty still be alive during the time period of Picard?
And yes, Prime Spock very well could have found a way to return home, or keep on sliding.
Could Scotty still be alive during the time period of Picard?
And yes, Prime Spock very well could have found a way to return home, or keep on sliding.
We know for a fact that he was.
I mean the TV show Picard.
Now I want a Scotty/Chris Doohan appearance on Lower Decks. They could technically do a McCoy and Spock, too, if they got sound-alikes as well.
Honestly, now I'm thinking of an entire Lower Decks, TOS reunion special, even get an animated Shatner for it. Its the one show that could do something goofy like that and get away with it.
Well, by the time of Picard he would be 177 years old (2399-2222), but 75 years (2369-2294) of those were spent in a transporter diagnostic cycle, so biologically, he'd be about 102 years old. Given that McCoy lived to be at least 137 and 140 generally seems to be considered a good life span for a human in the 24th century, I'd say it's fairly likely Scotty is still alive during Picard.
his liver is 174 years old.
If they have magic pills that can grow kidneys in the 23rd century, I wouldn't be surprised they can to the same for livers in the 24th.
In "The Neutral Zone", they defrost this guy who has bad liver and more generally organ damage because of alcohol and I think also drug abuse for years, and Beverly cures him completely in like five minutes so I think, yeah, he'd be fine.
Nah, Sulu's not alive -- clearly he's in Hell. 50+ years as a Captain? Sheesh. What'd he do to deserve that??
Oh, come on! Sulu loved being a captain! The best part was having his tea on the bridge in a porcelain teacup.
Exactly. The worst thing about the classic cast movies was that they thought they were structurally bound to portray all the TV regulars as lifers in Starfleet. Everybody.
And because they've been in the service so long, they all have to be commanders or higher to avoid looking like total failures. And they're bunched together on the same bridge for some reason, taking orders and pushing buttons like enlisted men. Seems legit. The credibility problem gets worse if the extended franchise drags them into the 24th century, and they're still in Starfleet.
And dwelling on the extended franchise means all the TOS regulars need deaths now! Since when do '60s TV regulars die? Or we're faced with the absurdity of saying So-and-So "is still alive"— in a tale that extends into the 25th century, with no end in sight. Which means we're just picking a point to stop at, which is what we should do: the right thing, now made absurd.
It's crazy. There's a lot to be said for letting TOS be its own thing. You can say "Happy endings are just stories that haven't finished yet," but we need some happy endings and young heroes.
The first two films had it right. TMP was only 2 and a half years from their final mission. TWOK brought them back for the training mission, Chekov was off on another ship. The implication was that they were no longer the regular crew ("wouldn't it be easier to put an experience crew back on the ship?").
Then TSFS made it foggier. Chekov asking if they would get another ship as if this were episode 80 was a blip that didn't need to happen. Kirk wasn't in command of any ship at that point, he was still a landbound Admiral. Chekov wasn't a member of the crew anymore and we didn't officially know the status of Uhura and Sulu. Even Bones could have been Earthbound at that time. However, that one line could have easily been ignored and when the film ended, everyone was still unattached to any real assignment,
Then TVH ruined it. When Kirk got his Captain rank back and a new ship, the rest of the crew just got shoved into the mix as if "naturally we don't want our own careers!" That's actually the decision I hated. I would have preferred to see Kirk remain an Admiral and then have some of the the crew spread out and brought back together for legit story reasons. Not just because Harve Bennet felt he had to restore the status quo.
Then TSFS made it foggier. Chekov asking if they would get another ship as if this were episode 80 was a blip that didn't need to happen. Kirk wasn't in command of any ship at that point, he was still a landbound Admiral. Chekov wasn't a member of the crew anymore and we didn't officially know the status of Uhura and Sulu. Even Bones could have been Earthbound at that time. However, that one line could have easily been ignored and when the film ended, everyone was still unattached to any real assignment,
Then TVH ruined it. When Kirk got his Captain rank back and a new ship, the rest of the crew just got shoved into the mix as if "naturally we don't want our own careers!" That's actually the decision I hated. I would have preferred to see Kirk remain an Admiral and then have some of the the crew spread out and brought back together for legit story reasons. Not just because Harve Bennet felt he had to restore the status quo.
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