When did the Janeway hatred truly start to coalesce?

[Ragitsu]

I once saw a comment regarding Living Witness that went something like the following ->

"Well, if her plans for galactic conquest fall through, she'll make one hell of a dominatrix."

 

[Oddish]

Is there any female character in the Mirror Universe who wouldn't make a hell of a dominatrix? I know that LW Janeway wasn't MU, but she sure was the type.

 

[at Quark's]

^Mirror Jennifer ('professor') Sisko seemed like someone who wasn't inclined that way.

 

[Oddish]

Conceded. And I guess Jadzia was as well. But Kira, Ezri, and Leeta?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Sadism is not a prerequisite for BDSM.

When choosing a dominatrix, the last thing a healthy minded person should be looking for is someone that wants to kill you.

 

[dupersuper]

Well, while I really like Janeway as a character, she fell far shy of her potential

Why would she be any different than the rest of the show that she was in?

 

[Oddish]

Why would she be any different than the rest of the show that she was in?

Touché.

 

[Guy Gardener]

What Janeway really needed, was a Russian accent, and maybe a really bad red dye job.

 

[Oddish]

What Janeway really needed, was a Russian accent, and maybe a really bad red dye job.

That show ("Orange is the New Black") shows just how skilled and multifaceted an actress Kate Mulgrew truly was.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Tried to get my wife to try NTFS SD SUV last night, and she just walked away.

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But but it's Captain Janeway, and Amy Pond, and Faith the Vampire Slyer.

(Eliza is only in one episode.)

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

NTFS SD SUV::'s regular cast list also doubles as a list of people who need to be cast in a current Star Trek series. We've got about half of them so far.

 

[John Stefan]

Fuck shit. Fantastic.

 

[Ragitsu]

Fuck shit. Fantastic.

Voyager in a nutshell?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Voyager in a nutshell?

“O God, I could be bounded in a nut shell and count myself a king of infinite space.”

Holy shit!

Bill was bitching about Threshold!

 

[John Stefan]

Indeed that may have been so.

 

[Ragitsu]

Question: was "Janeway hatred" a chiefly United States of America phenomenon or was (is?) it common in other nations as well?

 

[Oddish]

Is it Janeway hatred to criticize certain decisions she made? I happen to like her very much, but I pretty much agree with the "10 Worst things Janeway ever did" list.

 

[Akiraprise]

Every captain has made morally questionable decisions at times. Janeway separated Tuvix back into her officer's individual states, Archer stole the warp coils from that freighter stranding their crew for years in open space potentially, Sisko poisoned the biosphere of an entire planet, Picard refused to use the bio-weapon on the Borg with Hugh costing tens of thousands of future Federation and other species lives, Kirk wouldn't give God his starship to spread his love throughout the galaxy. Each captain wrestled with their morals but at the end of the day did what they felt was right and owned the consequences, whether it be only within themselves or from a superior officer.

 

[Oddish]

Precisely, and while we wish they had made different choices, their errors help define them the way infallibility would not. Tuvix could be considered Janeway's personal Kobayashi Maru. No way to win, but the losing option she chose defines her, for better or worse.

 

[DonIago]

Of course, Sisko didn't actually poison the biosphere of an entire planet.

His actions in ITPM are more dubious.