That's because 1) they choose to, and 2) there are no forces that could ever drive them away.
What's your "controversial" Star Trek opinion?
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That's because 1) they choose to, and 2) there are no forces that could ever drive them away.
Except that one time the vineyard caught fire...
The thing with Wesley is that it was getting silly that he kept avoiding his dream of going to the Academy, so it comes to the point of either send him there and write the character out of the show, or take him in another direction other than joining Starfleet. Ironically, they eventually did both.
They had already done several holodeck episodes while he was still on the show, so his continued presence wouldn't have cut those down. As for Q, it was after Wesley left that they actually went a season without Q. And beside, on average they only really did one Q episode a year, I doubt Wesley staying would have changed that.
According to his subordinates, who obviously were biased. I imagine none of his superiors found the methods & result in any way wrong, & at the end of the day, Picard owes his life to the man, & as for the preparation, there's a good chance he submitted his mission specs to his superiors beforehand, given how well prepared he looked when he came aboard. No one seems to care that this isn't going to be sunshine & roses for the crew, because ultimately, that doesn't really matter compared to heading off the potential for war. This captain says this is what preparations need to be made. So that's the way it is. Friendly to them personally? Get a dog.
Still while in service to Starfleet, coming aboard the very ship they were sent to as part of their mission. While Klingons might consider it lawful, by Starfleet code of conduct, it was not. As much is said to him, & only due to the respect his captain has for him, & his admitting he was in the wrong, does he still have a place there imho. I wouldn't have kept a liability like that around. We may run into Klingons again, & I'll have to tolerate another potential bloodbath busting out during my mission if he thinks his people's laws supersede ours
Recently someone in the comment section of a Dominion War video on Youtube , it the nail on the head, in my opinion. The reason why Starfleet took heavy losses during the war is that it had no real battleships and or aging fleet that wasn’t up to par. The Galaxy class, Nebula class, Ambassador class, the Defiant class, Akira class and later during the war the Excelsior class were pretty much the backbone of the war. The USS Prometheus class was a step in the right direction, but the damage was done at point. There is no way any other class of Federation starship could have been useful during the war.The aspect of men and woman dying because Starfleet wasn’t ready from a fleet of technically under performing ships when compared to the Dominion was disgraceful.
The thought of serving on a Miranda or Constellation class ship with be a death sentence when fighting against any Dominion ship. So , my controversial opinion would be that Starfleet needs to always have a few fleets of battleships or at most update their OLD fleet to what the Lakota did in that DS9 episode were it got a massive update on pretty much on every system. It was this policy that lead to the deaths of countless thousands of Starfleet personal. Screw Starfleet for sending men and women to their deaths.
I thought the character of Janeway suffered from bad writing. At the same time, I wasn’t a fan on how she allied with the Borg with the Scorpion episodes. Myself, I wouldn’t have done it. Instead I would have found out more about species 8472 or at least try to open a dialogue. Instead she gives a bioweapon to the Borg, that in theory could be reversed engineered to use against humans in the future. Also, she helped destroyed a civilization that 8472 kept in check. I would have been harder on Janeway once she made it back to Earth. No way , would I let it side.
Another is, Janway’s choice in giving the Hirogen Holo tech was a bad idea. She pretty said it is ok, for self aware holo grams to be hunted and “killed” multiple times. The episode were the holograms vs the Hirogen were a great premise. The holograms had a right to hate Janeway. The irony is that Janeway condemned Holograms to the same fate that they were suffering. I am glad holograms broke free. Janeway should be ashamed and again reprimanded by Starfleet.
Also, I agree with Section 31, most of the time, but not all the time. The galaxy doesn’t share our sense of right or wrong. Someone has to bend the rules so that disaster or a massacre doesn’t happen to protect Federation citizens.
The thought of serving on a Miranda or Constellation class ship with be a death sentence when fighting against any Dominion ship. So , my controversial opinion would be that Starfleet needs to always have a few fleets of battleships or at most update their OLD fleet to what the Lakota did in that DS9 episode were it got a massive update on pretty much on every system. It was this policy that lead to the deaths of countless thousands of Starfleet personal. Screw Starfleet for sending men and women to their deaths.
I thought the character of Janeway suffered from bad writing. At the same time, I wasn’t a fan on how she allied with the Borg with the Scorpion episodes. Myself, I wouldn’t have done it. Instead I would have found out more about species 8472 or at least try to open a dialogue. Instead she gives a bioweapon to the Borg, that in theory could be reversed engineered to use against humans in the future. Also, she helped destroyed a civilization that 8472 kept in check. I would have been harder on Janeway once she made it back to Earth. No way , would I let it side.
Another is, Janway’s choice in giving the Hirogen Holo tech was a bad idea. She pretty said it is ok, for self aware holo grams to be hunted and “killed” multiple times. The episode were the holograms vs the Hirogen were a great premise. The holograms had a right to hate Janeway. The irony is that Janeway condemned Holograms to the same fate that they were suffering. I am glad holograms broke free. Janeway should be ashamed and again reprimanded by Starfleet.
Also, I agree with Section 31, most of the time, but not all the time. The galaxy doesn’t share our sense of right or wrong. Someone has to bend the rules so that disaster or a massacre doesn’t happen to protect Federation citizens.
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Ok, but if there were forces to drive them away, would there be something to defend? Or would they shrug and say "home is wherever we lay our hat?" Are you saying there is nothing to defend or are you saying it's worth defending but nobody is attacking?
I am always told that the Federation in the 24th (and retroactively the 23rd) century is post-scarcity because we can replicate whatever we need. But they're still not making more land. I have to imagine that living on outpost 27 (where there would certainly be lots of land) would still be very different from living on Earth and that there would more than likely be more demand than supply for the rolling hills of historic France.
Yeeeaaahhh, just try taking up residence some place in Klingon territory without consent or Romulan space with or without consent, or any place near the Sheliak, and so forth and so on.
No, you can't live wherever you want. You can live almost anywhere you want, in the boundaries of opens space and/or maybe Federation-member space, depending on the government of those races.
That's like saying I can live anywhere on Earth. I could try building a little shack on the White House lawn or taking up residence in North Korea, but I don't think it'll work.
Don't be fatuous. You know what I mean. The Federation controls absolutely vast swaths of territory. There's more than enough living space for each and every one of its inhabitants.
And with replicator technology, one's actual home can be re-created in precise detail on any one of those worlds.
However, there is not only sentimental value, but other incalculable attributes, like spiritual bonding, as in the case of the Dorvan V inhabitants, unknowable alien/supernatural or other sci-fi type attributes, like wormhole prophets, or fountains of youth, etc...
In their universe, while they may have more space & resources than we do on Earth, they also have more specialness about those places where they live than most of us do. I just count it as part of the sci-fi. While there's room & resources to provide homes for billions, there's also sometimes NO replacing the home some might have
Plus, the more important issue of what there is to defend, which isn't about the territory at all, but rather the principle of not allowing yourself to be driven out. You're not defending just a home, a territory, a material asset/investment. You are standing up for yourself
Your home, your community, what you built and created through your own efforts.
It not like all things are interchangeable and meaningless..
The domes of Cochrane test ship looked like the ones on Kirk's Enterprise, given the brevity of the flight, why would Cochrane equip his test ship with collectors?
What could make you think that? As point out before, we don't know what Worf's reprimand was for. Basically it comes down to Picard not agreeing with Worf's actions.
Worf never admitted any wrongness in the killing of Duras.
Ezri didn't seem to be given much choice. She never wanted to be joined, but since she was the only Trill available, she's the one who had to accept the Dax symbiont even though she didn't want it and had never gone through the training.
I'm not sure where you get the idea that people can live just anywhere they want. What if a thousand people all want to live in the same house or apartment? Obviously they all won't fit there. And what if where you want to live is on another planet? NuTrek's magic transporter is a nuTrek thing, not a Prime universe thing. People have to be able to get from one planet to another, and maybe there aren't any available ships, or there may not be living spaces available on the other planet.
No replicator could re-create the setting, ie. the mountains, rivers, flora and fauna in such a precise way that it's as though you never left the other place.
By answering no, Worf admits that he has accepted that he must live by Starfleet codes in order to be in it, thereby admitting he failed to do so in this situation, thus why his record is no longer "Exemplary". That he never voices that failure & wrongdoing himself is irrelevant. He is being told he was in the wrong, & by his acceptance of that reprimand, & by the act of not resigning, he admits his wrongdoing. That reprimand which Picard gives IS the reprimand placed on his record. It is about wrongfully killing somebody while in service to Starfleet. No other subject for which a reprimand could be issued is ever mentioned. Unless you want to write your own narrative, then this is the charge being addressed, and we all know it.Picard said:
Worf does not assert innocence of a Starfleet code beach, only that in his society's law he is innocent. He outright accepts his wrongdoing as presented by Picard
Worf admits nothing. Remaining silent when a reprimand is placed on his record is not the same as ACCEPTING that reprimand. Worf simply believes it would be pointless to contest it.
If Worf presses his case, and is court-martialed, the evidence would be likely to convict him. Remember what I just said about an Alford plea - the defendant does NOT admit guilt, but accepts judgment because he or she is probably going to be convicted if the case goes to trial.
If Worf presses his case, and is court-martialed, the evidence would be likely to convict him. Remember what I just said about an Alford plea - the defendant does NOT admit guilt, but accepts judgment because he or she is probably going to be convicted if the case goes to trial.
That's the same argument against eminent domain, but this time rather than building a new shopping mall it's about preventing war.
Worf doesn't remain silent. A question is put to him, & he responds. Accept that a reprimand of wrongdoing is being leveed, & conform to the guidelines of Starfleet codes of conduct, or resign.
This is not a civilian criminal legal proceeding. What he did is not contested in any way. All that remains is to establish that such action is prohibited & assign punishment. Had he remained silent to Picard's question, then Picard could've assumed that he doesn't accept the reprimand or recognize that not accepting it is paramount to being required to resign, at which point both parties can pursue further action
However, Worf outright says no. That is not a refusal to recognize. That is an acceptance of the judgment (which is that he is in the wrong for killing someone). It is confirming everything that Picard has said & choosing to adhere to it, & accept that he hadn't in this situation.
Without that understanding, Picard is not going to just return the guy to duty, IMHO, as this situation then has the potential to happen again. No, Picard laid the law down & Worf verbally accepted it, & that's the only reason the matter is closed from then on
One: that's not what you said. Two: you use "vast swaths" very widely -- what do you even mean? The Federation is the Federation of Planets, which includes other races; it's doesn't mean you can just go where ever you want.
I didn't even say anything about that, but now I will: Replicators aren't magic -- they have to be programmed. You can only re-produce your home if the precise details have been programmed in. Who is going to take that time? If you don't have the knowledge, you have to find somebody who wants to spend all that time doing that.
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