There was a real life Vic Fontaine in the MU. I suppose that the holographic Vic could have been modeled on a real life modern person with the same name and everything, but... but... ugh...
What's the worst canon decision in the history of Trek?
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There was a real life Vic Fontaine in the MU. I suppose that the holographic Vic could have been modeled on a real life modern person with the same name and everything, but... but... ugh...
It wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Vic seems to have memories with real people though like Sinatra I think or someone else I didn't pay much attention to the names he was using except that it was people that were familiar.
It's actually an ongoing argument whether Mirror Vic Fontaine was organic or an android.
Plus they're all evil and bisexual, in fact, the eviler they are the more bisexual they are as well!!! Yeah, that's Star Terk open-mindedness for you!
I thought Vic Fontaine was modeled off of James Darren.
Well, he was the lead in a series in the sixties called "Time Tunnel". It lasted two seasons which isn't bad given how many shows get canned after a couple of episodes. I was a time-travel sci. fi., they would use a lot of footage of movies about the events they were "visiting" among them, "Titanic", "The Alamo",... which is funny considering.
Most of ENT's fourth season was self-indulgent fanservice. I'm unfortunately not a fan of making the universe smaller because Everything Has To Be Connected; it's not what I consider good world building or great storytelling, although cynically I suspect a seeming majority of fans would disagree.
As for whether it was in character for Klingons to suddenly take an interest in 200-year old genetic experiments which both did and didn't happen (for my money they never happened within the TVH, TNG or VOY subcanons), the whole split-in-half five-parter was seemingly concocted just to get to the point of establishing why Ruffles Have Ridges. Making the entire exercise redundant to me. I've also never fully gotten the memo about suddenly calling them "augments".
And see, I actually approve of this. I approved of it in TMP as well as in TFF, TUC and STID. But I can't help thinking more people might have approved of their latest revamp on STD (rather than practically forcing the producers to back-peddle on it) if not for the common belief that Berman Trek in its final season had universalized all of ST before it (a rather presumptuous move of them to have made in any case).
The Vic Fontaine thing was pretty dumb, I agree. Especially given that it accomplished nothing whatsoever.
But, I like them explaining Klingon diversity. And, the difference in Discovery was fine. There can easily be different varieties of Klingon, just as humans come in all varieties. The Discovery ones simply have darker complexion (like some humans) and shave their heads for cultural reasons. The TNG-VOY ones are the most common ethnicity. And, the TOS ones are affected by the augment virus. Since I don't like reboots, I like the way Trek endeavors to connect everything, even if judicious use of parallel universes is involved. Others are free to disagree.
But, I like them explaining Klingon diversity. And, the difference in Discovery was fine. There can easily be different varieties of Klingon, just as humans come in all varieties. The Discovery ones simply have darker complexion (like some humans) and shave their heads for cultural reasons. The TNG-VOY ones are the most common ethnicity. And, the TOS ones are affected by the augment virus. Since I don't like reboots, I like the way Trek endeavors to connect everything, even if judicious use of parallel universes is involved. Others are free to disagree.
For me, “time crystals” in DSC. Total Fantasy land on the level of a Marvel movie.
The Borg Queen completely changed the nature of the Borg without reason. Moore and Braga only had to watch BoBW to see a two-hour Borg movie with a terrifying non mustache twirling Khan surrogate.
ID didn’t need the achingly cringe Kirk/Spock role switch and magic Khan blood ending that was immediately dropped after.
Engineering genius Tom Paris invents Warp 10 and “evolves” into a salamander.
...a few that stand out this moment.
The Borg Queen completely changed the nature of the Borg without reason. Moore and Braga only had to watch BoBW to see a two-hour Borg movie with a terrifying non mustache twirling Khan surrogate.
ID didn’t need the achingly cringe Kirk/Spock role switch and magic Khan blood ending that was immediately dropped after.
Engineering genius Tom Paris invents Warp 10 and “evolves” into a salamander.
...a few that stand out this moment.
But dilithium crystals in TOS are legit?
That's not magic; that's science. Just like the transporters.
Dilithium is a glorified semiconductor. The science surrounding warp is based in reality. Magic time crystals that act like crystal balls tell you where the modern educational system and general scientific literacy of the public lies.
Completely disagree.
Even the parts where you spin around the sun to go back in time?
Edit: Ninja'd by @1001001
Also, all that "real science" is from technical manuals, not the show. Maybe they just haven't written the time crystal manual yet
Nice side-stepping of the issue. I think the slingshot around a sun is also ridiculous. But that was a comedy from the 80’s riffing on the 60’s. Television was stupider then. Time crystals suggests it not only remain the same in the 21st Century but go backwards still.
That’s a winning strategy in the age of a global pandemic that could have been averted if people took the slightest bit of personal responsibility in understanding very basic science.
And as we go ahead still with future bugs, AI, nanotechnology, and classic nuclear proliferation. We’ve been lucky so far.
But, no, please, make this another DSC vs Trek thread. Because that’s surely what I was going for.
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