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What You Expected vs. What We Got

Dukhat

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So I'm sure many of us had a preconceived notion as to what the Picard show was going to be about based on internet rumors and pre-show teasers/trailers. So what did you expect versus what actually happened? Here's my thoughts.

1. I thought the show was going to focus heavily on the supernova from Star Trek '09, and its repercussions. I had assumed that Picard was commanding a fleet that was in charge of evacuating the Romulans when the sun unexpectedly exploded sooner than they thought, destroying the planet and his entire fleet, but that somehow he managed to escape, and then resign from Starfleet immediately afterwards. I figured the main plot of the show would be about Picard dealing with survivor's guilt or a feeling of failure that he didn't save the Romulans, just like how Spock Prime felt. I also thought that the Enterprise was destroyed during this time, so Picard lost both his ship and his career.

Instead, we see that the destruction of Romulus mattered very little, the Tal Shiar is operating just like they did before, the Romulans have tons of ships, and if I didn't already know that Romulus was destroyed, I wouldn't have known any different. We still don't know anything about the supernova, why it happened or if someone was actually responsible for it (the show implies that it was just natural, but there was so little exposition about it that who knows?)

2. After the first trailer, I thought that we were seeing flashbacks to the original Romulan exodus from Vulcan 2,000 years ago, and one of the colony ships was being attacked by early Vulcan fighters. That scene turned out to be the synth ships attacking Utopia Planitia. I had this preconceived notion because of another scene showing what looked like contemporary Romulan ships heading toward Vulcan, showing like of a role-reversal where the Romulans are now returning to their origin world after Romulus's destruction (those ships turned out to be the Tal Shiar fleet headed towards Mars, which ironically wasn't even used in the show for some reason.)

3. After "Children of Mars" and the next trailer showing F8 and the other synths, I thought that 'rogue synths' referred to these androids who gained sentience and revolted from their existence as slaves/workers, not that they were reprogrammed by someone else. Again, there's no underlying moral implication about these androids being used as slave labor, only that they were banned after the UP incident and then the ban being lifted with, again, no moral implications about the androids themselves.
 
What I thought we would get was a heavy focus upon the Romulans and the huge fallout of the destruction of Romulus. I thought it would be introspective of Picard's feelings over that matter, and his personal struggles with whatever happened.

What I got was Picard's personal struggles, more fucking Borg, synthetic lifeforms and some Romulan exploration. A lot of threads and questions were introduced, which is good. I think the synths are semi-interesting, and a natural progression of technology and experimentation.

Overall, it surprised me.
 
Tonally, stylistically, I expected TNG meets DSC. Story-wise, I expected it to not let DS9 be the final word on Starfleet, the Federation, or the Alpha Quadrant and I expected it to not let NEM be the final word on the TNG characters. Quality-wise, I expected it to make up for the TNG Movies.

So it met all those expectations and then went on to deliver more.

I was wondering how Picard would fit into things once he came out of retirement and it looks like the Fenris Rangers and La Sirena provided an alternative to Starfleet and the Enterprise.
 
I wanted to see Picard get some good moments in and Captain Riker and overall just a show respectful to TNG. I think it achieved it for me
 
I did not expect a retcon of the ST ’09 Countdown comics. Mainly, Picard being an ambassador to Vulcan into him becoming a Starfleet admiral, considering was Kirk said to him in GEN about the position - and turned out to be right about. And the omission of both Spock’s and Geordi La Forge’s role in trying to stop the supernova (which was supposed to threaten both Vulcan and Earth, not just Romulus), and the role of both Worf and the Enterprise-E in trying to stop the Narada was surpassing. Not even a throwaway line that both Spock and a renegade Romulan mining ship were both lost in the subsequent black hole that was meant to deal with the supernova. Could have still kept the backstory and not acknowledge that Data was resurrected in the Countdown comics.

Although we got a long overdue look into Romulan culture and Romulan society, I expected a deeper look at the Romulan Free State. All we got was Zhat Vash, Qowat Milat, Vashti, and a 23rd century Romulan bird-of-prey. Never really got anything else, not even warlords commanding Valdore class and D’deridex class ships, or more 23rd century Romulan birds-of-prey. And I would thought Laris and Zhaban would have played a larger role in the series, and would have joined Picard on La Sirena, considering their value as Tal Shiar agents in a Romulan-focused show and they were initially helping with Dahj.

The show did answer why Picard left Starfleet and his desire to return to space from the trailers. But then the show brought up Picard's Irumodic Syndrome. And it was disappointing in how the showrunners handled it, particularly the lack of confusion and delusions in association with Picard’s Irumodic Syndrome. I would have thought it would have progressed and got worse over the course of the series. And that there would have been hallucinations of Beverly Crusher and former Stargazer crewmates, & unnecessary and inappropriate outbursts with Admiral Clancy, the La Sirena crew and even former crewmembers from the Enterprise. Instead it was rushed within a season (mainly the last couple of episodes), and resulted in Picard in a synth body, and his old body left on the synth planet to be revived (much like Narissa Rizzo) to become Locutus again. Or Shinzon. Or both.

And I thought Kima and Lil from the "Children of Mars" Short Trek would have played a role in the story as adults. Considering how Short Trek tie in to the stories for Trek series.

I’m not unhappy with the season though. The main thing I wanted was a continuation from Nemesis, and I got it.
 
I have mixed feelings on it because I love ST 09 and Spock's mission. I would have enjoyed a name drop. However, on the other hand, the Countdown comic could be too small universe syndrome which I didn't want. Nor did I want the Irumodic syndrome to be included because there would carry with it a certain level of expectations to track with All Good Things. And, it still did in a way...again, mixed.

I am hoping that both DSC and PIC feel that they can launch further away from the familiar and in to the unknown.
 
All in all, I was pleased with the story. Not quite where I thought it would go -- like others, I thought there would be more focus on the Romulan post-supernova plight -- but it worked out well in the end. Captain Riker saves the day was a great gift for yearning TNG fans.
 
I expected a series about a post-Starfleet Picard leading a fairly motley crew on an unsanctioned mission to save lives. I expected it to not be very much like TNG and more of a rough & tumble kind of series.

I kinda nailed it.
 
I tried not to expect anything from the start because I've been too disappointed in the past...often from Star Trek, come to think of it...to expect anything. What we got was a jewel of a season/series that I appreciated very much, even if TNG remains the crown itself for me.

Once the show was on, though, I did develop "pet" predictions that I was fine didn't come true. I heard Chabon say in an interview that neither Worf nor Geordi would show up this season, but he said nothing about Crusher. You know, his wife. Plus she was in various pics at various premiers, and I thought she was going to show up at the end of the season, maybe captaining the Enterprise-F even, either in the part that Riker played (cavalry on the Zheng He) or antagonist (ex-wife sent by an isolationist Starfleet to reign Picard in). That would have certainly been a bang-zoom-wow with a the combo of new era starship, it being the E-F, Starfleet really coming after him, and a TNG main character as the problem. Certainly the Enterprise showing up at the end of DSC S1 was a jaw-dropper. I thought it made sense they'd manufacture another such finale.

Now, I don't know if Chabon never intended to include her in any way or if it was up in the air in some way. The whole season wasn't written in advance, I don't think, and they're working on the first half of Season 2 now. (Maybe that means they'll work on the second half as they see what works and what doesn't?) But neither she nor the Enterprise (which they were giving serious thought to for a while) showed up, and Chabon concentrated on the part of Trek he cared about most/was best at. It didn't seem like he thought too much about the ships that did show up, going by his Insta Q&A's. That's not a criticism, just an observation.

Anyway, I hope we see her next season in a part that doesn't underserve a main cast member.

Also, did you guys see this before the real trailer dropped?
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i didnt expect anything,
then i got a very vibrant Picard,... Seven!, a pimp-my-ride crew, and space-orcids...
I mean... it blew me away, highly entertaining stuff. I enjoyed it much much more than i thought i would.
Very surprised and happy!
 
After seeing all the different versions and styles of Trek, I didn't know what to expect from Picard. Only that I was interested to see what it would be like.

As the story got started, I thought the Mars Synths, what they were, how they were treated, and how they were banned would be interesting. There wasn't any need to add anything else to the story. It was interesting enough by itself. I mean the the Mars Synths were creepy.

I wished they stuck with just that!

But the whole thing got convoluted into Data's molecule creating a daughter, a planet of androids, the Tal Shiar, something called Admonition, Romulans plotting aboard the Borg Cube, yada yada yada,

I thought we would see more of life on earth in the 24th century and what it was really like. Like it was flirting with the money/no money thing, whether 24th century humans can be "rich" or "poor" like what they suggested with Raffi.

How they sound. How they act. Raffi was a pretty messed up pothead. who lost her job and blamed Picard. Some say it wasn't Trek, but I found it interesting just to see this side of humanity on Trek.

But the story shifted away to the Borg stuff, the sexy seductive Romulan brother/sister stuff on the Borg cube.

Commodore Oh was interesting because she was creepy as hell too. Even without the Admonition thing, just being a high ranking spy would have been interesting enough.

At first I thought Seven was going to be just another gimmick. I was about to write her off. And then I found I like this version of Seven. I don't why, but when she promised Picard she wouldn't take revenge and then beamed right back down firing on everyone and everything -- it was so crazy it was actually funny. It won me over. The way she talks, the way she talks, her beliefs. And the concept of a Fenris Rangers, even though I haven't seen them yet.

But honestly, by the time we got to the finale, I thought it was a weird mess. I think if they had kept the plot simple and limited to just those few things, it would have sparked twice as much debate and conversation than 'whether this is real Trek', and 'what do you think of this season?'.

What I can say is that it got my attention. I kept watching. If I lost interest by the 3rd episode or so, that would usually mean I don't like it much. Like Discovery--I watched it up until the Red Angel thing, then I completely lost interest in it. I have no idea what's going on with it now.

So now just curious to see what direction it will go in next.
 
I expected more of the same from Kurtzman.

I was listening to this video today and I learned a new term - Second Harvest. It is a time when you are starving and you are attempting to stay alive, so you will go through feces looking for those little things you can eat, things which have value and meaning. That is what the experience of watching Kurtzman Star Trek is like for me now.

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What I did not expect was how cheap this show looked on a multi-million budget for each episode. Where the hell was the money going? It wasn't going into the sets or the VFX. And the blatant use of stock footage for the admonition scenes and the copy-and-paste ships were dismal. Well, one thing has come out of this. This clip has become used by those who do not like this Trek to describe the experience of the audience watching the show and the writers writing this show.

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I was not impressed with the Admonition set. I would have expected a structure housing the device. Maybe that was in the cards and the budget gods couldn't make it happen. Whatever, it looked terrible and, in one scene, it was revealed, because the CGI was not completed, to be PVC pipe. Crappy VFX.
 
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