What would you change about this series?

[davejames]

The only thing I might consider changing would be the Klingons speaking Klingon. I don't give a shit about their design, since Trek is constantly redesigning Klingons. But the stilted speech and all caps sub titles could have been made less difficult to follow if they'd gone with the convention of speaking "english" via the universal translator over a short amount of time.

Yeah I think that's the only thing I'd change as well. I don't usually mind reading subtitles (and always prefer that to dubbing when watching foreign films), but usually that's because it's a real language you're listening to that feels authentic and is pleasant to the ear. But here's it's just a bunch of short, choppy guttural sounds that is repetitive and painful to listen to after awhile.

 

[Worf2DS9]

Cancel it. There's no reason there has to be a new Star Trek show. The franchise is old and worn out. Time to put the old dog to sleep.

The "old dog" has been asleep for 12 years. It's finally woken up again, and it's about the fork time.

 

[Tesophius]

I would try sprinkling in some interesting sci-fi stories that discover something and are good.

 

[C57D]

Honestly, the characterization of DSC as dark and grim feels as inaccurate here as it was for DS9 back in the day. The characters might be a bit more serious and complex, but there is still humor and that optimistic Trek spirit and people who are trying to grow and better themselves. We're not exactly talking something grim like BSG or The Leftovers here.

Starfleet First officer knocks down her captain and friend, around ten Starfleet ships and crews lost in battle, including an Admirals (flag?)ship and thats just the first two episodes ??????

Humour and optimision?

&*₩&$#@÷=%??

More like establish a entitled anti authoritarian character who is edgy and dark and sooo boringly similar to characters in half a dozen series out there now. And a big cgi-fest rather than good writing.

Colour me bored !!!

 

[Hey Missy]

1. Make space a little more black and a little less like an LSD trip (like the "nebula" in the last episode which looked like the freakin' lights of Zetar). Make the CGI crisper, not blurry. Everything has a kind of "halo" effect that's driving me nuts. Turn the contrast down on exterior shots.
2. A mix of bald and hairy Klingons.
3. Make it easier to distinguish ranks.
4. Visit a couple of planets in future episodes.

 

[Vger23]

Honestly, the characterization of DSC as dark and grim feels as inaccurate here as it was for DS9 back in the day. The characters might be a bit more serious and complex, but there is still humor and that optimistic Trek spirit and people who are trying to grow and better themselves. We're not exactly talking something grim like BSG or The Leftovers here.

The "grimdark" criticisms are admittedly asinine. Just because every episode doesn't have everyone doing the morally right thing, winking agreeably throughout, and finishing with a sure-thing smile and obligatory "lesson of the week" doesn't mean it's grimdark.

It just means the show has finally moved its sensibilities into the modern times and been written for modern audiences. It's no different than the changes in style and attitude between TOS and TNG in that TNG was an updated production that reflected the late 80s.

The reason that DSC seems jarring is because the 100's of episodes that followed TNG all had a similar vibe, themes, pacing, characters and asthetics. An update was well overdue.

 

[Vger23]

Starfleet First officer knocks down her captain and friend, around ten Starfleet ships and crews lost in battle, including an Admirals (flag?)ship and thats just the first two episodes ??????

Humour and optimision?

&*₩&$#@÷=%??

More like establish a entitled anti authoritarian character who is edgy and dark and sooo boringly similar to characters in half a dozen series out there now. And a big cgi-fest rather than good writing.

Colour me bored !!!

Good news is that you can stop watching immediately and have no need to register further complaints as a result of you wisely disconnecting from something you obviously find objectionable.

 

[Tesophius]

STD's most redeeming quality for me has been allowing me to give DS9 another try and finally getting into appreciating most of it, to some extent. It was the one Trek I couldn't get into, but thanks to Discovery I'm already three seasons in. It doesn't always feel like StarTrek either, but it's entertaining. Almost like a show on its own.

Fun fact: I went on the cbsaa site to cancel the subscription and it offered me a 50% discount for two more months. So that's $5. May as well keep it for now.

If it can stay in the 4/10 to 5/10 range, I'll be fine with watching more of it, as long as it doesn't slip back into 2/10 area.

What if in the second season all this crap is going to be revealed as Michael's nightmare? And the season is going to be on par with The Orville? One can hope...

 

[Flork]

Keep everything, but in the last episode, reveal it to be an alternate timeline or universe. Have that episode lead to a correction where suddenly and in the final shot, we see a Discovery bridge that looks more like the one for the Enterprise in The Cage, and the uniforms conform.

 

[fireproof78]

People's reaction to it...if we're wishing for things

 

[Refuge]

Yeah? Could be worse there might be no reaction

 

[Ithekro]

Interestingly, the FASA Four Years War would end in or around 2256-57 in the Prime timeline.

As for changes, the Klingons just seem wrong in almost every visual way possible. Almost. There are a few things that hold hints of what came before or after.
Their ships need to become more utilitarian and industrial to support their war effort over these ornate ships.
Also they need their Klingon speeches to seem more fluid and natural. Let the actors put some emotion into it. The only one that seems to really get it is Mary Chieffo as L'Rell, and that might be because her makeup isn't quite as heavy around the mouth.

 

[USS Triumphant]

The only one that seems to really get it is Mary Chieffo as L'Rell, and that might be because her makeup isn't quite as heavy around the mouth.

It might also be because she's an honest-to-god NERD and she's really enthusiastic about what she's doing. (I'm not guessing - it was apparent when she was on After Trek.)

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah? Could be worse there might be no reaction

I'd take that over "Not real Trek!" arguments.

 

[TheNearestAirlock]

Yeah, Discovery is honestly not going to beat In the Pale Moonlight, no matter how hard it tries.

Nothing will. That's the best episode of ST ever produced!

 

[GilmourD]

Cancel it. There's no reason there has to be a new Star Trek show. The franchise is old and worn out. Time to put the old dog to sleep.

You're on the wrong site.

 

[GilmourD]

When Stamets first used the spore drive, it looked like he had bullet wounds in his abdomen. I was totally confused. I thought "What the heck kind of hypospray was that?"

I realised later that it wasn't the hypospray, but the machine that brutally stabs you with giant screwdrivers every time you saddle up.

How is this machine supposed to work? Does Stamets see a galactic map in his mind? Or does someone else navigate when he is in there?

You'd think that there would be a more sensible, less violent method of achieving the connection, wouldn't you? Seems gratuitous to me.

 

[GilmourD]

The "grimdark" criticisms are admittedly asinine. Just because every episode doesn't have everyone doing the morally right thing, winking agreeably throughout, and finishing with a sure-thing smile and obligatory "lesson of the week" doesn't mean it's grimdark.

It just means the show has finally moved its sensibilities into the modern times and been written for modern audiences. It's no different than the changes in style and attitude between TOS and TNG in that TNG was an updated production that reflected the late 80s.

The reason that DSC seems jarring is because the 100's of episodes that followed TNG all had a similar vibe, themes, pacing, characters and asthetics. An update was well overdue.

See, even by modern sensibilities, it's still dark.

For the first five episodes EVERYBODY was angry at each other. Not in a unified way that military comrades would be, you know, angry towards the enemy. Everybody was just pissed off at each other. Well, except Tilly, cuz she's just a little ray of sunshine. It's incongruous with how I understand war to be from people I know that have served in the military.

I watch the show waiting for everybody to kill everybody else. If the ships didn't say USS on them I'd swear that we've been watching the mirror universe.

 

[Ithekro]

Tilly acts more like what we expect from a Starfleet officer from the TOS era some ten years later. More optimistic and yet can be quite serious when needed. And has a sense of humor.

 

[Vger23]

See, even by modern sensibilities, it's still dark.

For the first five episodes EVERYBODY was angry at each other. Not in a unified way that military comrades would be, you know, angry towards the enemy. Everybody was just pissed off at each other. Well, except Tilly, cuz she's just a little ray of sunshine. It's incongruous with how I understand war to be from people I know that have served in the military.

I watch the show waiting for everybody to kill everybody else. If the ships didn't say USS on them I'd swear that we've been watching the mirror universe.

Nah.